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Higgs avoids the Clash's question, but sees no clear successor if he goes

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Higgs avoids the Clash's question, but sees no clear successor if he goes

N.B. premier’s choice of words suggests he worries his work will be undone if he doesn’t stay

Premier Blaine Higgs avoided the big political question on everyone's minds in his state of the province speech Thursday night.

He suggested last fall he'd use the event to reveal whether he'll stick around to run in the next provincial election in 2024.

Then in December he said he'd take more time to make up his mind.

"I know many of you have a question that you may have expected me to answer tonight, but I have a question for you," the decidedly non-punk premier told the crowd of more than 800 people as he wrapped up the 40-minute speech.

A large group of people pose on stage in front of New Brunswick flags.    In a tribute to his caucus of Progressive Conservative MLAs, Higgs didn't mention the name of the party. He defined them as 'Team Higgs.' (Mikael Mayer/Radio-Canada)

Cue the music, the 1982 classic Should I Stay or Should I Go?

It was inappropriately silly to some, cringey to others — never mind incongruous, given the Clash's radical left-wing politics. 

But the song allowed the premier to toss the question back at the audience before dancing, not completely rhythmically, off the stage.

Still, there were clues in the speech to what his own answer could be — phrases indicating he may be unsure anyone else would stick with his policies if he left.

In a tribute to his caucus of Progressive Conservative MLAs, Higgs didn't mention the name of the party. He defined them another way.

"I want to acknowledge here tonight the MLAs who ran with me. You ran with me as Team Higgs. I'm proud of what we have accomplished together."

A blue brochure with black and red lettering.                                            in his 2010 brochure, rookie candidate Higgs named health care, education, energy, debt, N.B. Power, job loss and property taxes as priorities. (Submitted by GNB)

On the big screen, he displayed his campaign brochure from his first election run in Quispamsis in 2010, a pamphlet with a dramatic graphic. 

"When I look at this, I look at the Band-Aid. I know we're ripping off a lot of Band-Aids lately, but everybody kind of should have known it was coming," he said.

The message: you knew what you were getting with me.

In that 2010 brochure, rookie candidate Higgs named health care, education, energy, debt, N.B. Power, job loss and property taxes as priorities.

"Major improvements have been made on at least four of those seven, and we're working on the other three," Higgs said Thursday night.

The job's not finished, one might say.

WATCH | Premier dad dances off stage at state of the province:

Higgs shows his moves at state of the province speech in Fredericton

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As a nod to speculation about his future, Premier Blaine Higgs danced himself off stage to the tune of Should I Stay or Should I Go?

And for those who fear electoral defeat because of his dramatic and disruptive initiatives — like a plan, now redefined as a "proposal," to phase out French immersion starting this fall — Higgs returned to a familiar refrain: avoiding controversy is no way to govern. 

"We aren't making decisions to benefit ourselves … for the next election," he said of the immersion issue. "We want decisions to benefit the next generation of students."

Higgs dodged attempts pin down his plan

One of his "Team Higgs" MLAs, Fundy-the Isles-Saint John West's Andrea Anderson-Mason, has called on the government to "pump the brakes" on the immersion proposal.

She worries it will undermine a new literacy program also launching this fall.

But Higgs suggested that whatever he decides, it's full speed ahead this year.

"That's why we moved it forward — not to say we're coming up with a solution in September 2024.… We're going to find a solution, not pass it on to the next generation." 

Those are not the words of a premier looking to flee, or postpone, a political storm.

Speaking to reporters after the speech, Higgs was in good humour as he dodged several attempts to pin down his plans.

Again, however, there were tea leaves to read.

As a manager at Irving Oil, he said he learned to hit targets and "always looked for a successor that would build on that success. Learn from what we learned … and then continue.

"In politics that doesn't happen. In politics, it doesn't matter what the last one did. Just toss that and go fresh." 

So is there someone out there now who will "build on that success?" 

"Well, I guess it's possible," Higgs said, telling one reporter, "If someone presents that to you, and they actually have a concrete plan, not just 'I'm going to spend more of your money and hope for the best,' I'll listen."

That sounded like a big "if," like that person has yet to appear. "Not yet, no. I think the most I've heard is 'I'll undo what that one did,'" he said.

He quickly clarified, dropping his playful tone, that he wasn't suggesting there were no worthy successors in his own caucus. "No, I won't say that. I don't think that would be fair to my colleagues. I wouldn't say that." 

Two woman, one in black and white checks, one in blue, stand in a banquet room.   PC MLAs Margaret John and Kathy Bockus did not directly answer the leadership question posed by Higgs. (Mikael Mayer/Radio-Canada)

Moments later, five of those colleagues avoided the question that their leader had so perfectly teed up with his musical selection.

"I think it's a great song," said Saint Croix MLA Kathy Bockus.

"I think we all need to work together and as a team and continue the work that we've been doing." 

Moncton East MLA Daniel Allain praised "a great state of the province speech" but did not use the phrase Team Higgs.

"I'm part of the Progressive Conservative team and we'll continue to work for New Brusnwickers," he said.

"We have another 18 months to go. … He was elected for four years. If there are decisions to make, we'll talk about them in caucus."

In fact, none of the five PC MLAs came out and said Higgs should stay.

"That's his decision. Only he can decide. For now we're working with him, he's there, and I'm very happy to be part of his team," said Miramichi Bay-Neguac's Réjean Savoie.

"I think he's done a great job," said Carleton-Victoria MLA Margaret Johnson. "We've got work to do and we've got a year and a half to get it done in this mandate."

Anderson-Mason also avoided answering the Clash's question.

"That was a good song. Was that not a good song? I think it was definitely a very good music choice," she said. 

"He ended very well. That's what we were all waiting for. And you know everyone's still asking the question."

Fortunately for Higgs — and for Team Higgs — the music had faded before the lyrics at the 1:20 mark:

If I go there will be trouble

And if I stay it will be double.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

 
Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

With files from Alex Villeneuve, Radio-Canada

 
 
 
 
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David Amos
Methinks everybody knows I sent my documents to Higgy before he got elected in 2010 and sworn a oath to the Crown after seven cars full of cop pounced on me on election night. I believe Higgy must be aware he will have to pay for his lawyers out of pocket after he leaves public office. However to be fair the current leader of the liberals is in the same pickle right now because she has yet to be elected N'esy Pas?


DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
Reply to David Amos
Nobody has a clue what you’re going on about!

 
David Amos
Reply to DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
Methinks you should grow up and get a name N'esy Pas? 

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David Amos
Reply to DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
BTW if you had bothered to read the article before pounding on it you would have understood what I was addressing

"in his 2010 brochure, rookie candidate Higgs named health care, education, energy, debt, N.B. Power, job loss and property taxes as priorities."


DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
Reply to David Amos
Nobody cares


David Amos
Reply to DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
C'est Vrai


DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong

Reply to David Amos
Why do you think everyone cares about your personal issues with politicians?


David Amos

Reply to DominionOfCanadaStrong BritishCommonwealthStrong
Methinks politicians certainly do because I ran against them 7 times and sued them in two countries N'esy Pas?












 

Higgs offers no clues to his future in state of the province speech

Premier emphasizes health and education achievements in Fredericton speech

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs defended his major moves in health and education but offered no clues in his annual state of the province speech Thursday night as to how long he'll stick around to see them through.

He made only passing references to his most controversial initiatives while arguing his four-year-old government is responsible for the province's record population growth, low unemployment and growing exports.

"We knew we could do better," Higgs told the crowd of around 800 people at the Fredericton Convention Centre.

"I'm proud to say that New Brunswick is back in a big way. We are no longer at the edge of the cliff. We are now standing on the cusp of greatness."

At one point last year Higgs said he would use the state of the province speech to announce whether he'd stay on to seek another mandate in next year's election.

But he later revised that commitment and said he could wait until early 2024 to reveal his plans.

Higgs made no reference to that Thursday night, though he told his caucus of Progressive Conservative MLAs that "you ran with me as team Higgs" and thanked them for sticking with him "as we continue to push forward together.

"Sometimes it's a little trying, but we're building a better New Brunswick."

His only other nod to the speculation about his future was at the end of the speech, when he referred to "a question that you may have expected me to answer tonight," and left the stage to the sound of The Clash's Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Economic data put in the spotlight

Speaking to reporters after the speech, Higgs cheerfully batted away several questions aimed at trying to pin him down about when he might feel confident enough in the province's direction to hand off the job to a successor.

His wife Marcia Higgs was also coy on what she'd like him to do.

A man is surrounded by journalists holding microphones or cameras. Premier Blaine Higgs fielded questions from reporters after delivering his state of the province speech. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

"I'm not going to say, but as long as he's keen and excited, I'll be there beside him."

Higgs devoted much of the speech to touting economic data, such as strong growth in weekly earnings, the fastest population growth since Confederation and the first reduction in the province's median age since 1961.

The province's population is now estimated to have surpassed 824,000, Higgs said.

"I could go on about the momentum we're building together in our economy," he said, adding, "You all know I like data by now."

That was a joking reference to his now-infamous "Data, my ass" comment to education officials, which Dominic Cardy revealed when he quit as education minister in October.

The triumphant tone came at a time Higgs is facing low approval in public opinion polls, dissatisfaction with the quality of health care and a strong pushback against his proposal to phase out French immersion this fall.

Controversial health moves paying off, premier says

He described taking "what some might call extreme measures" in health care, a reference to shuffling his health minister, firing Horizon Health's CEO and replacing the two partly-elected health authority boards with appointed trustees last summer.

But he said that bold move had yielded improvements, including reduced waiting times at walk-in clinics, a reduction in the number of people waiting for a family doctor or nurse practitioner from 74,000 to 52,000 and more hip and knee surgeries.

On immersion, the premier was non-committal on a reform that as recently as last October he said was essential to put in place this September.

A woman listens to a reporter's question during an interview in a hotel ballroom. Liberal Leader Susan Holt says she feels Premier Blaine Higgs is now 'out of touch' and ought to step aside. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

He described a recent round of raucous public meetings— where people spoke with near unanimity against the changes — as "a conversation" that needed to happen. 

"I don't pretend to have all of the solutions, and we may not all agree on the path forward," he said.

But, he said, it's clear that some students are disadvantaged because their schools don't offer immersion, and students in both immersion and English prime programs are not hitting achievement targets while being streamed into a two-tier education system.

He also suggested the immersion controversy had revealed other issues — "the need for us to equip our students better in math, ensure early literacy by Grade 2, and … better meet the needs of children who require targeted interventions, often by trained professionals.

"We can't do better if we aren't willing to talk about it — to explore solutions," he said. 

"Please keep giving us your input.… Having these conversations is the only way to move forward."

Higgs also talked about how his government is projected to have reduced the province's net debt by $2 billion, freeing up $69 million per year that would be spent on interest payments to fund provincial services. 

Repeating a frequent theme, the premier said he wants to "modernize energy policies" to develop a provincial natural gas sector "in partnership with First Nations." 

Higgs should go, Liberal and Green leaders say

Higgs's relationship with Indigenous people has been fraught because of his cancellation of retail tax-sharing agreements with band governments.

But Thursday he said a partnership on natural gas "would reflect a new kind of economic partnership with First Nations and hopefully the first of many as we strive to build development opportunities together — nation to nation."

A camera with a man on the viewfinder, with a blurry stage with flags on it in the background.    At one point last year Higgs said he would use the state of the province speech to announce whether he'd stay on to seek another mandate in next year's election. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Higgs also said his government will announce new initiatives on mental health and addiction treatment in the coming weeks and release a housing strategy in June.

Both Liberal Leader Susan Holt and Green Leader David Coon said the speech contained nothing new to address the province's challenges and both said Higgs should bow out. 

"I think at this point he's out of touch," Holt said, mentioning Cardy's resignation last fall and PC MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason urging the government to slow down on replacing French immersion.

"So I think it would be in the best interest of New Brunswickers if he were to step aside," she said. 

Coon told reporters, "He asked the question at the end, 'should he stay or should he go?' He should go."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

 
Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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