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MCC - DAY 54 -

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You have another couple of emails from me and one of them contained my private cell number correct?

 

 

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MCC Day 50 – Perpetrator Financial Misdealings and RCMP Officer Misrememberings

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The Mass Casualty Commission took a welcome break from academic discussion panels today to explore evidence about the finances of the killer, and to hear from an RCMP officer who dealt with the complaint from Brenda Forbes, which she described in her evidence last week. The financial misdealings Foundational Document gave a window into the degree of illegal activity in which Gabriel Wortman was engaged, while Cst. Troy Maxwell’s testimony forced us to choose between two starkly different versions of a key event. 
 
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Dwayne KingSenior Manager, Grant ThorntonDwayne is a member of Grant Thornton’s AML Advisory. Prior to working at Grant Thornton Dwayne managed a team of 26 investigators as part of the Global Anti-Money Laundering Department for TD Bank. Dwayne also has 26 years of experience in Law Enforcement which includes over 8 years investigating Money Laundering and Proceeds of Crime. Dwayne is a court qualified Money Laundering expert. He has received his designation as an Advanced Financial Crimes Investigative Specialist (CAMS – FCI), a Certified Anti Money Laundering Specialist (CAMS), a Certified Financial Crimes Specialists (CFCS) and a Certified Bitcoin Professional (CBP).


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MCC - DAY 52 - THE BRENDA CALL... TROY MAXWELL & WORTMAN'S FINANCES

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Troy Maxwell's Notes July 6, 2013: https://masscasualtycommission.ca/fil... 
 
Troy Maxwell MCC interview transcript (No audio or video): https://masscasualtycommission.ca/fil... 
 
 

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David Amos
You should have followed the money like Palango and I did long ago
 
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robert thomas
where is the money David?
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas  Perhaps we should talk??? "If anybody finds this I would hope to impress on them the importance of doing what is right when it still matters and can save lives. I waited 20 days. Too late to be proactive. Don't wait for an authority for permission to speak."
 
David Amos
Are you the Retired dude who was teasing me today???
 
robert thomas
 @David Amos  that wasn't me.. I'm still working! So serious question then. You brought it up and suggest that you are smarter than the average bear.. so where is the money?
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas  Ask the bears you admire
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas  BTW are you the Robert Thomas dude who works for the CRA?
 
robert thomas
 @David Amos  No I work for a rebar company
  
David Amos
 @robert thomas  So why did you pick a fight with me today of all days?
 
robert thomas
 @David Amos  You are the one casting aspersions. I don't get it. Just wondering if you have some information that I don't.
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas  I repeat take it up with the RCMP
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas  The email I got from Palango last night that I forwarded to your hero Seamus would be a fine place to start
 
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robert thomas
 @David Amos  Where did you read that Seamus is my hero? Why the vitriol? 
  
I don't get it.  
 
Everyone here on this channel is striving to find the find the truth where ever it can be found. By the way you started all this by claiming that you knew something more than everyone else.  
 
And maybe you do. 
 
All I wanted to know was where the money is that only you and Mr. Palango know of right now. And further I don't have access to LGC's email account. How could I? Do you think I am a spy or something? How am I supposed to know what you are talking about. Seriously man! You are being a troll.. 
 
Why? 
 
I doesn't make sense to me when we should all be on the same side when it comes to this tragedy. I have a day job and don't have time to explore everything in detail. If you have information please share.  
 
As far as Palango goes the fact is that I follow him too! Does that in and of itself make him a hero in my eyes as well.  
 
Anyways have a nice life!
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas "You are being a troll."Hmmm It has been my experience to understand that when somebody accuses you of being something that is exactly what they are
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robert thomas
 @David Amos  Listen man! you started this.. You are being a troll. And yeah by engaging you I have become one as well. My bad I guess. Have a nice life!
 
David Amos
 @robert thomas "Don't wait for an authority for permission to speak."Methinks I should call every dude in the Nova Scotia phone book who shares your name so they can hear an old pissed off Maritimer's voice N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
PAUL PALANGO was born in Hamilton, Ontario and earned a degree in journalism from Carleton University. He has worked at the Hamilton Spectator (1974-1976), covered the Toronto Blue Jays in their first season for the Toronto Sun (1977), and worked at the Globe and Mail from 1977 to 1990 as City Editor and National Editor. In 1993, he began work as a fraud investigator for a leading forensic accounting firm, which allowed him to see the justice system from a unique perspective. In that capacity, he traveled extensively around North America investigating fraud, including an arson investigation in Saskatchewan, in which he helped the Mounties there focus on the likely perpetrator, who eventually was convicted and went to prison.
 
 
 
 
Underestimate at your peril
God wins and those who come against Him and His people shall be scattered to the winds like chaff.
 
 
 
 
 
brickleberry
I’m catching up on some missed parts and can’t get over how she is grilling this officer over their DV narrative. Disgusting.
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Dwayne King Senior Manager, Grant Thornton Dwayne is a member of Grant Thornton’s AML Advisory. Prior to working at Grant Thornton Dwayne managed a team of 26 investigators as part of the Global Anti-Money Laundering Department for TD Bank. Dwayne also has 26 years of experience in Law Enforcement which includes over 8 years investigating Money Laundering and Proceeds of Crime. Dwayne is a court qualified Money Laundering expert. He has received his designation as an Advanced Financial Crimes Investigative Specialist (CAMS – FCI), a Certified Anti Money Laundering Specialist (CAMS), a Certified Financial Crimes Specialists (CFCS) and a Certified Bitcoin Professional (CBP).
 
 
David Amos
Dwayne King and his buddies in the PCO must recall this exchange 
 
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 13:10:52 +0000 
Subject: Your various correspondence about abusive tax schemes - 2017-02631 
  
Mr. David Raymond Amos 
 
Dear Mr. Amos:

Thank you for your various correspondence about abusive tax schemes, and for your understanding regarding the delay of this response.

This is an opportunity for me to address your concerns about the way the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) deals with aggressive tax planning, tax avoidance, and tax evasion by targeting individuals and groups that promote schemes intended to avoid payment of tax. It is also an opportunity for me to present the Government of Canada’s main strategies for ensuring fairness for all taxpayers.

The CRA’s mission is to preserve the integrity of Canada’s tax system, and it is taking concrete and effective action to deal with abusive tax schemes. Through federal budget funding in 2016 and 2017, the government has committed close to $1 billion in cracking down on tax evasion and combatting tax avoidance at home and through the use of offshore transactions. This additional funding is expected to generate federal revenues of $2.6 billion over five years for Budget 2016, and $2.5 billion over five years for Budget 2017.

More precisely, the CRA is cracking down on tax cheats by hiring more auditors, maintaining its underground economy specialist teams, increasing coverage of aggressive goods and service tax/harmonized sales tax planning, increasing coverage of multinational corporations and wealthy individuals, and taking targeted actions aimed at promoters of abusive tax schemes.

On the offshore front, the CRA continues to develop tools to improve its focus on high‑risk taxpayers. It is also considering changes to its Voluntary Disclosures Program following the first set of program
recommendations received from an independent Offshore Compliance Advisory Committee. In addition, the CRA is leading international projects to address the base erosion and profit shifting initiative of the G20 and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, and is collaborating with treaty partners to address the Panama Papers leaks.

These actions are evidence of the government’s commitment to protecting tax fairness. The CRA has strengthened its intelligence and technical capacities for the early detection of abusive tax
arrangements and deterrence of those who participate in them. To ensure compliance, it has increased the number of actions aimed at promoters who use illegal schemes. These measures include increased
audits of such promoters, improved information gathering, criminal investigations where warranted, and better communication with taxpayers.

To deter potential taxpayer involvement in these schemes, the CRA is increasing notifications and warnings through its communications products. It also seeks partnerships with tax preparers, accountants, and community groups so that they can become informed observers who can educate their clients.

The CRA will assess penalties against promoters and other representatives who make false statements involving illegal tax schemes. The promotion of tax schemes to defraud the government can lead to criminal investigations, fingerprinting, criminal prosecution, court fines, and jail time.

Between April 1, 2011, and March 31, 2016, the CRA’s criminal investigations resulted in the conviction of 42 Canadian taxpayers for tax evasion with links to money and assets held offshore. In total, the $34 million in evaded taxes resulted in court fines of $12 million and 734 months of jail time.

When deciding to pursue compliance actions through the courts, the CRA consults the Department of Justice Canada to choose an appropriate solution. Complex tax-related litigation is costly and time consuming, and the outcome may be unsuccessful. All options to recover amounts owed are considered.

More specifically, in relation to the KPMG Isle of Man tax avoidance scheme, publicly available court records show that it is through the CRA’s efforts that the scheme was discovered. The CRA identified many of the participants and continues to actively pursue the matter. The CRA has also identified at least 10 additional tax structures on the Isle of Man, and is auditing taxpayers in relation to these
structures.

To ensure tax fairness, the CRA commissioned an independent review in March 2016 to determine if it had acted appropriately concerning KPMG and its clients. In her review, Ms. Kimberley Brooks, Associate Professor and former Dean of the Schulich School of Law at Dalhousie University, examined the CRA’s operational processes and decisions in relation to the KPMG offshore tax structure and its efforts to obtain the names of all taxpayers participating in the scheme. Following this review, the report, released on May 5, 2016, concluded that the CRA had acted appropriately in its management of the KPMG Isle of Man file. The report found that the series of compliance measures the CRA took were in accordance with its policies and procedures. It was concluded that the procedural actions taken on the KPMG file were appropriate given the facts of this particular case and were consistent with the treatment of taxpayers in similar situations. The report concluded that actions by CRA employees were in accordance with the CRA’s Code of Integrity and Professional Conduct. There was no evidence of inappropriate interaction between KPMG and the CRA employees involved in the case.

Under the CRA’s Code of Integrity and Professional Conduct, all CRA employees are responsible for real, apparent, or potential conflicts of interests between their current duties and any subsequent
employment outside of the CRA or the Public Service of Canada. Consequences and corrective measures play an important role in protecting the CRA’s integrity.

The CRA takes misconduct very seriously. The consequences of misconduct depend on the gravity of the incident and its repercussions on trust both within and outside of the CRA. Misconduct can result in
disciplinary measures up to dismissal.

All forms of tax evasion are illegal. The CRA manages the Informant Leads Program, which handles leads received from the public regarding cases of tax evasion across the country. This program, which
coordinates all the leads the CRA receives from informants, determines whether there has been any non-compliance with tax law and ensures that the information is examined and conveyed, if applicable, so that compliance measures are taken. This program does not offer any reward for tips received.

The new Offshore Tax Informant Program (OTIP) has also been put in place. The OTIP offers financial compensation to individuals who provide information related to major cases of offshore tax evasion that lead to the collection of tax owing. As of December 31, 2016, the OTIP had received 963 calls and 407 written submissions from possible informants. Over 218 taxpayers are currently under audit based on
information the CRA received through the OTIP.

With a focus on the highest-risk sectors nationally and internationally and an increased ability to gather information, the CRA has the means to target taxpayers who try to hide their income. For example, since January 2015, the CRA has been collecting information on all international electronic funds transfers (EFTs) of $10,000 or more ending or originating in Canada. It is also adopting a proactive approach by focusing each year on four jurisdictions that raise suspicion. For the Isle of Man, the CRA audited 3,000 EFTs totalling $860 million over 12 months and involving approximately 800 taxpayers. Based on these audits, the CRA communicated with approximately 350 individuals and 400 corporations and performed 60 audits.

In January 2017, I reaffirmed Canada’s important role as a leader for tax authorities around the world in detecting the structures used for aggressive tax planning and tax evasion. This is why Canada works daily with the Joint International Tax Shelter Information Centre (JITSIC), a network of tax administrations in over 35 countries. The CRA participates in two expert groups within the JITSIC and leads the working group on intermediaries and proponents. This ongoing collaboration is a key component of the CRA’s work to develop strong relationships with the international community, which will help it refine the world-class tax system that benefits all Canadians.

The CRA is increasing its efforts and is seeing early signs of success. Last year, the CRA recovered just under $13 billion as a result of its audit activities on the domestic and offshore fronts. Two-thirds of these recoveries are the result of its audit efforts relating to large businesses and multinational companies.

But there is still much to do, and additional improvements and investments are underway.

Tax cheats are having a harder and harder time hiding. Taxpayers who choose to promote or participate in malicious and illegal tax strategies must face the consequences of their actions. Canadians expect nothing less. I invite you to read my most recent statement on this matter at canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/news/2017/03/ statement_from_thehonourabledianelebouthillierministerofnational.

Thank you for taking the time to write. I hope the information I have provided is helpful.

Sincerely,

The Honourable Diane Lebouthillier
Minister of National Revenue
 
 
 
 
 
 

Joanne Willoughby
Finally home, time to watch. Hello everyone
 
 
 
 
 
CON-CAN
I feel that the lawyers actually cross examining this witness illustrates that they are capable of asking good question, but that they aren't allowed to for the most part. There has to be a reason to badger a witness like that.
 
Peter Byker
Yet, they call them "findings" when they're done! Ridiculous. All we've found are more questions.
 
David Amos
YO Tara perhaps you should call me now?
 
 
 
 
 
brickleberry
Why was That family’s lawyer so mad?? I’m so confused
 
 
 
 
 
Ken Triol
I look forward to the comments and I just couldn't make them work on this one. I have no idea why.
 
 
 
 
 
Joanne Willoughby
Shoot, live chat is not available
 
Peter Byker
I'm rewatching a lot of this, what a day! Thanks for your interest ❤ 
 
Hopefully it is working now...


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The Westray Coal Mine Explosion and Aftermath

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Just posting for history's. sake. It isn't a great speech and I will be first to admit that. Problem I had is I was talking to a computer screen and all I could see was the video feed of myself. Still all in all I think it shows well my progression from what was once something very difficult to address without breaking down to now a place where I can finally remove myself somewhat from the scene. Look at it from the Third Eye. 
 
If anybody finds this I would hope to impress on them the importance of doing what is right when it still matters and can save lives. I waited 20 days. Too late to be proactive. 
 
Don't wait for an authority for permission to speak.
 


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MCC - DAY 53 - MORE SLOP... TIME TO RESEARCH ?

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David Amos
I remember dealing with a certain RCMP member named Maloney and her lawyers long ago 
 

Accused killer stays free to await ruling

The Province
Thursday, January 29, 2004
By Suzanne Fournier

 

Former American Indian Movement activist John Graham walked away fromcourtyesterday still a free man.

Graham, a 48-year-old father of eight who has lived in Vancouver since1999,smiled in relief and hugged his supporters as he left the B.C. Courtof Appealfollowing a bid by federal Crown prosecutor Deborah Strachan torevoke the bail he was granted Jan. 16.

B.C. Court of Appeal Justice Risa Levine reserved her decision.

Strachan argued Graham could "choose to go underground again" and disappear.

Graham said outside court he has refused to hide and that U.S. agents haveinterviewed him many times over the last decade.

"The only political movement I've been involved in for 20 years is thelives of my children and my loved ones," said Graham. "I'm not goinganywhere I need to clear up these rumours that have been hanging over mefor years."

Graham, a Yukon native of the Champagne and Aishihk band, is accused of the28-year-old murder of Nova Scotia Mik'maq Anna Mae Pictou Aquash, whowasshot in the back of the head in December 1975 in what Strachan called a"cold-blooded execution-style" killing on the Pine Ridge reservation inSouth Dakota.

The U.S. is seeking Graham's extradition to face a murder charge in SouthDakota, where co-accused Arlo Looking Cloud has fingered Graham as thetriggerman.

Graham's accusers say he was ordered by AIM leaders to execute Aquash as asuspected informant.

Graham says he has disavowed AIM's goals and its male leaders, who he saidbecame "macho Hollywood Indians."

Graham was arrested in Vancouver Dec. 2 and released on stringent bailconditions requiring a $10,000 surety from each of five people and housearrest at an east-side residence.

Graham's lawyer, Terry LaLiberte, told Levine there is "not one tittle offorensicevidence" to link Graham to the killing of Aquash. He said theU.S. case relieslargely on "hearsay" evidence "that we can prove isincorrect."

Tuma T. W. Young, a Mik'maq lawyer and University of B.C. doctoral studentrepresenting Aquash's two adult daughters, Denise Pictou Maloney of Torontoand Debbie Pictou Maloney, a Nova Scotia RCMP officer, said that "naturallythe sisters would prefer certainty that [Graham] will show up in court sothey can get a fair hearing."

"To the sisters, this is about solving their mother's brutal murder afterall these years it's not about AIM leaders, though they should be heldresponsible if they ordered her death, or about blaming the FBI. An agencydoesn't shoot a defenceless woman, a person does, and we want him broughtto justice."
sfournier@png.canwest.com

© The Vancouver Province 2004

 

David Amos
I MUST SAY YOU PICKED A BAD DAY TO PLAY DUMB
 
 
 
 
cyndi
Shediac has a new facility for abused women but also has every program running for abusers, to help them, I always believed once a women beater/abuser always one!
 
tinycha0s
I feel like it’s easy to assume that until you are in a situation where you need to defend yourself and end up being called the aggressor….. Theres two sides to every story.The way they do it, it favours the person who calls the police, the “victim” is whoever can be more convincing. The system is broken. Beyond.
 
cyndi
 @tinycha0s  I've lived thru way more than lb abuse, she had it made! Compare to some, I know you can get away if you really really want to as well!!! Do people change for the better??? Hopefully but who wants to stick around and find out????
 
cyndi
Gabe wasn't my abuser(s) !!!
 

 


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N.S. mass shooter had a history of financial 'misdealing,' according to new documents

Gunman’s partner said he ‘wasn’t claiming what he actually made’

The financial history of the gunman who killed 22 people in Nova Scotia in 2020 is dotted with red flags, but few were passed on or picked up by authorities until after his rampage, according to new documents tabled as part of the inquiry looking into the tragedy.

The latest foundational document from the Mass Casualty Commission looks at Gabriel Wortman's suspicious banking activity, improper billing practices and an eventually aborted plan to defraud a federal immigration program.

"The evidence described below suggests the perpetrator amassed money and other assets through a number of illegitimate or suspicious means," notes the commission.

"While there are no definitive answers about the sources of all his income, there is a clear pattern of misdealing."

Living beyond reported income 

As part of its investigation into the shooting, the RCMP commissioned a report from federal financial investigators to review the gunman's finances and those of his common-law spouse Lisa Banfield.

The financial review report said that between 2012 and 2019 the gunman reported an average annual income of $39,916 from his business, the Atlantic Denture Clinic. The commission's report said that worked out to $29,036 in disposable income.

But the Department of Community Services said the gunman's clinic received $434,406 between 2015 to 2020 in provincial funds to deliver services to clients receiving Employment Support and Income Assistance, and those in the Disability Support Program.

"The perpetrator obviously underreported his income," said commission lawyer Ronke Akinyemi on Tuesday.

The review noted that in addition to his salary an additional $232,907 was deposited in his personal accounts and another $96,753 was dropped into the joint account he held with Banfield during that period.

Dwayne King, the commission's lead financial investigator, said the gunman's spending habits and lifestyle exceeded his reported income.

For example, from December 2017 to May 2020 the perpetrator spent nearly $20,000 on PayPal and just over $23,000 on the GCSurplus site. — about 87 per cent of his reported disposable income. 

King also noted a mismatch in the amount Banfield was spending compared with her declared annual average salary of $15,288.

In an interview with the commission, Banfield said the gunman "wasn't claiming what he actually made" from his denture clinic. She described how she would collect cash from patients and, at the end of the day, would take it to the residence the couple shared above the clinic. 

Banfield said she would also cash cheques patients made out to the gunman and give the money to him. She said the gunman told patients to make cheques out to him versus the clinic. 

According to the report the couple filed their taxes as "single," despite living together for 19 years.

Banfield told a commission lawyer she didn't know why that was the case. The tax returns were prepared by a bookkeeper and not an accountant.The former is not obliged to report to the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC). 

Lisa Banfield, the common-law wife of Gabriel Wortman, testifies at the Mass Casualty Commission inquiry into the 2020 Nova Scotia murders in Halifax on Friday, July 15, 2022. In an interview with the commission, Banfield said the gunman “wasn’t claiming what he actually made” from his denture clinic. (The Canadian Press/Andrew Vaughan)

The commission said there is also evidence to suggest the gunman was claiming personal purchases on his CIBC Visa card as business-related expenses.

The Canada Revenue Agency wouldn't say whether the federal agency was aware of the gunman's suspicious filings. 

"In order to ensure the integrity of our work and to respect the confidentiality provisions of the acts we administer, the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) does not comment on investigations that it may or may not have undertaken," said spokesperson Hannah Wardell in an email to CBC News.

Investigation turns up improper billing 

In 2005 the Denturist Licensing Board of Nova Scotia launched an investigation into the perpetrator for improper billing and to follow up on allegations he was aggressive with patients.

The board's records show the gunman had a practice of billing the insurance provider the full amount of the fee but only charging the patient the portion that was covered by their insurance, resulting in a discount for the patient. Two insurance companies told the board they felt the practice could be seen as fraudulent.

The gunman said he didn't realize the practice was wrong and signed a settlement agreement in 2007 with the board. 

Cash found on property 

When police combed the burned-out grounds of the gunman's cottage following the mass shooting they found a metal container buried underground. In it: eight packages of cash totalling $705,000.

Banfield said she believed some of that money came from the estate of his friend, Tom Evans. 

Evans's will did not go through probate and there are no records available with respect to the value or content of his estate.

While the gunman said the New Brunswick lawyer had no assets of any real value, the commission said a number of witnesses later told the RCMP that he benefited financially from being the sole beneficiary of Evans's estate.

The gunman had a history of hiding money around his properties, Banfield said, and that it was "normal" for him to have large bundles of cash. 

During a search of Gabriel Wortman's Portapique cottage, the RCMP discovered this metal ammunition container hidden below ground under the deck, containing cash. The money was in bundles of $100 bills adding up to $705,000. (Mass Casualty Commission)

One of the bundles of $100 bills found in a metal ammuniton box hidden underground beneath the gunman's cottage in Portapique. The total cash amount found was $705,000. (Mass Casualty Commission)

As previously reported,  the perpetrator withdrew $475,000 from an account at CIBC in March of 2020.

Banfield said he buried that money in a duffle bag at the cottage.

A senior manager for corporate security at CIBC said the request was unusual and he was concerned but that the money was "clean" meaning it raised no red flags. 

"How he brought it in and obviously no flags, nothing was abnormal, no flags came up, nothing was triggered" Joe Morgado told the commission in an interview. 

He said other clients, like the gunman, were concerned the start of the pandemic would bring on the collapse of banks.

Suspicious deposits triggered 2010 report

After the mass casualty, Canada's financial intelligence agency passed on information to RCMP regarding suspicious transactions, but FINTRAC had the gunman on its radar back in 2010, according to the documents.

In August of 2010, the gunman deposited $70,000 cash into a TD Bank account held in the name of one of his companies, Northumberland Investments Ltd. About two weeks later, he deposited another $130,000 in cash into the same account before withdrawing the $200,000 via a bank draft payable to himself. 

The cash deposits triggered TD to send a suspicious transaction report to FINTRAC. Banks are required to report suspicious transactions "if there are reasonable grounds" to suspect  money laundering or terrorist financing. 

The Mass Casualty Commission said it's unclear where the $200,000 bundle of cash came from. The commission said it contacted TD Bank, Scotiabank and CIBC — all institutions the gunman dealt with — for any clues but the banks said those records fall outside of their record-keeping timelines. 

TD's suspicious transaction report also mentioned a $154,000 deposit — around the same time as the $200,000 cash deposits — into the Northumberland account from a trust account of the law office of Alan G.D. Irvine. The account also received a credit of $78,000 from the trust account.

"FINTRAC did not appear to inform local law enforcement of this report or taken any other action," wrote the commission.

Twenty-two people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left: Gina Goulet, Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck. (CBC)

Because Canada's anti-money laundering and terrorist financing law has strict rules around sensitive information, FINTRAC said it "cannot comment on any decision to refer or not refer a [suspicious transaction report] to law enforcement."

After the shooting, PayPal Canada Co. and TD Bank filed suspicious transaction reports to FINTRAC detailing credit card payments and purchases and cash deposits. 

In its explanation, PayPal said it identified an account linked to the gunman "that is believed to have been used to make purchases for items utilized in facilitation of domestic terrorist activities."

 On April 22, 2020 —  days after the rampage came to an end —  FINTRAC forwarded the suspicious transaction report to the RCMP saying that it has "reasonable grounds to suspect" the information is "relevant to an investigation or prosecution of a money laundering offence." 

On May 1, 2020, FINTRAC said it sent more information onto the Mounties from PayPal and TD about the gunman buying police items including a centre console for a 2013 Ford Taurus, a ram for the front bumper of a Taurus sedan, siren lights, a dashcam, a thin blue line vinyl decal and a gun rack.

The gunman dressed as an RCMP officer and drove a replica police cruiser as he murdered 22 people on April 18 and 19, 2020. 

Plans to defraud immigration program 

The documents released Tuesday also detail how the gunman had begun to sketch out how he could defraud the Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program.

The federal program, launched in  2017, is meant to fill gaps in local labour markets by allowing  approved businesses to sponsor immigrants with the  understanding that they would be hired for a one-year period. Those who immigrate under the program are granted permanent residency within six months.

Emails between the gunman and friend Kevin von Bargen, a lawyer in Ontario, discuss having immigrants pay a fee and year's salary to Atlantic Denture and in return the clinic would make them an "employee" for a year. The applicant wouldn't have to actually work at the clinic and the plan was to pay the fake employee their own money back every two weeks to look like a salary.

The clinic was approved under the program in 2018 and the commission said emails suggest they were actively recruiting.

But more research put the plan on hold.

"The whole structure falls off the rails if it attracts CRA [Canada Revenue Agency] scrutiny," wrote von Bargen.

After the gunman googled "Inside the illegal immigration scheme targeting Atlantic Canada" the two men decided to abandon the scheme.

"Abort is my consensus," wrote the gunman in an email.

The gunman's financial misconduct appears to pre-date his time as a denturist. 

One of the gunman's uncles, Glynn Wortman, told police after the mass casualty that his nephew had a history of smuggling cigarettes into Canada when he was younger. He said the gunman was once caught at the border so then changed to bringing them over by boat.

Wortman said his nephew "sold enough illegal cigarettes that it put him through ... university" 

One of his former neighbours in Portapique, George Forbes, said the gunman used to brag to him about his history selling illegal cigarettes. 

The Mass Casualty Commission said understanding the gunman's finances helps their work examining the causes and circumstances that gave rise to the mass shooting. 

The commission said it ultimately decided not to pursue a full forensic accounting analysis. 

WATCH | Spouse of N.S. mass shooter testifies about guns, violence

Spouse of N.S. mass shooter testifies about guns, violence

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WARNING: Story contains distressing details | Lisa Banfield, the spouse of the Nova Scotia mass shooter Gabriel Wortman, testified at the Mass Casualty Commission about the shooter's guns, fake RCMP vehicle and violent tendencies.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Catharine Tunney is a reporter with CBC's Parliament Hill bureau, where she covers national security and the RCMP. She worked previously for CBC in Nova Scotia. You can reach her at catharine.tunney@cbc.ca

 

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MCC - DAY 52 - THE BRENDA CALL... TROY MAXWELL & WORTMAN'S FINANCES

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Troy Maxwell's Notes July 6, 2013: https://masscasualtycommission.ca/fil... Troy Maxwell MCC interview transcript (No audio or video): https://masscasualtycommission.ca/fil... Wortman's finances: https://masscasualtycommission.ca/fil...

  

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David Amos
PAUL PALANGO was born in Hamilton, Ontario and earned a degree in journalism from Carleton University. He has worked at the Hamilton Spectator (1974-1976), covered the Toronto Blue Jays in their first season for the Toronto Sun (1977), and worked at the Globe and Mail from 1977 to 1990 as City Editor and National Editor. In 1993, he began work as a fraud investigator for a leading forensic accounting firm, which allowed him to see the justice system from a unique perspective. In that capacity, he traveled extensively around North America investigating fraud, including an arson investigation in Saskatchewan, in which he helped the Mounties there focus on the likely perpetrator, who eventually was convicted and went to prison.
 
 
David Amos
Dwayne King Senior Manager, Grant Thornton Dwayne is a member of Grant Thornton’s AML Advisory. Prior to working at Grant Thornton Dwayne managed a team of 26 investigators as part of the Global Anti-Money Laundering Department for TD Bank. Dwayne also has 26 years of experience in Law Enforcement which includes over 8 years investigating Money Laundering and Proceeds of Crime. Dwayne is a court qualified Money Laundering expert. He has received his designation as an Advanced Financial Crimes Investigative Specialist (CAMS – FCI), a Certified Anti Money Laundering Specialist (CAMS), a Certified Financial Crimes Specialists (CFCS) and a Certified Bitcoin Professional (CBP).

 

Underestimate at your peril
God wins and those who come against Him and His people shall be scattered to the winds like chaff.

 

brickleberry
I’m catching up on some missed parts and can’t get over how she is grilling this officer over their DV narrative. Disgusting.
 

Joanne Willoughby
Finally home, time to watch. Hello everyone
 
CON-CAN
I feel that the lawyers actually cross examining this witness illustrates that they are capable of asking good question, but that they aren't allowed to for the most part. There has to be a reason to badger a witness like that.
 
Peter Byker
Yet, they call them "findings" when they're done! Ridiculous. All we've found are more questions.
 
 
brickleberry
Why was That family’s lawyer so mad?? I’m so confused
 
 
Ken Triol
I look forward to the comments and I just couldn't make them work on this one. I have no idea why.
 
 
Joanne Willoughby
Shoot, live chat is not available
 
 
Peter Byker
I'm rewatching a lot of this, what a day! Thanks for your interest ❤ 
 
 
Hopefully it is working now...

 

 

https://acams.digitellinc.com/acams/speakers/view/7701 

 

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Dwayne King

Senior Manager, Grant Thornton

Dwayne is a member of Grant Thornton’s AML Advisory. Prior to working at Grant Thornton Dwayne managed a team of 26 investigators as part of the Global Anti-Money Laundering Department for TD Bank. Dwayne also has 26 years of experience in Law Enforcement which includes over 8 years investigating Money Laundering and Proceeds of Crime. Dwayne is a court qualified Money Laundering expert. He has received his designation as an Advanced Financial Crimes Investigative Specialist (CAMS – FCI), a Certified Anti Money Laundering Specialist (CAMS), a Certified Financial Crimes Specialists (CFCS) and a Certified Bitcoin Professional (CBP).

 

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Dwayne King, CFE

Dwayne King, CFE

Lead Financial Crimes Investigator, Mass Casualty Commission

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Dwayne King has 27 years of experience in law enforcement with more than eight years investigating money laundering and proceeds of crime as part of the Financial Crimes Unit of the Toronto Police Service. After leaving law enforcement, Dwayne managed a team of 26 investigators as part of the Global Anti-Money Laundering Department for TD Bank.

For two years, he was a Senior Manager as part of Grant Thornton’s Forensics Team. In April Dwayne took a leave from Grant Thornton and joined the Mass Casualty Commission as the lead financial crimes investigator into Canada's worst mass murder.

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Senior Manager

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As a senior manager in Grant Thornton's forensics and dispute resolution group, as well as a qualified Chartered Accountant (CA) and CA-designated specialist in investigative and forensic accounting (CA-IFA), I specialize in providing forensic accounting and litigation support services, as well as a wide range of anti-fraud work, to a diverse client base.On any given day, I’m helping clients conduct fraud risk and vulnerability assessments, internal control compliance engagements, fraud investigations, forensic accounting assignments, and anti-fraud work. I work with organizations across numerous industries, including police services, education, municipal, provincial and federal governments, healthcare, forestry, pharmaceutical, not-for-profit, and other public sector and Crown corporations.

As a senior manager in Grant Thornton's forensics and dispute resolution group, as well as a qualified Chartered Accountant (CA) and CA-designated specialist in investigative and forensic accounting (CA-IFA), I specialize in providing forensic accounting and litigation support services, as well as a wide range of anti-fraud work, to a diverse client base.

On any given day, I’m helping clients conduct fraud risk and vulnerability assessments, internal control compliance engagements, fraud investigations, forensic accounting assignments, and anti-fraud work. I work with organizations across numerous industries, including police services, education, municipal, provincial and federal governments, healthcare, forestry, pharmaceutical, not-for-profit, and other public sector and Crown corporations.

Outside of the office, you can find me speaking on the topics of forensic accounting, fraud awareness and prevention, and internal control risks, or co-authoring articles and whitepapers relating to fraud. I’ve also been qualified numerous times in the Ontario Court of Justice, as well as the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, to testify as an expert witness in forensic accounting.

In my spare time, I am generally outside—usually running, mountain biking, skiing or playing soccer.

 

RE The Nova Scotia mass shootings Seems that I must ask the CBC and their buddies the RCMP and FBI if the name Col. Joe Dotson Beasley The Third rings any bells EH Higgy???

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Monday 2 May 2022

Nova Scotia gunman was on police radar long before mass shooting, RCMP confirm


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How the Nova Scotia mass shooter acquired guns in Maine
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The inquiry into the deadliest mass shooting in Canada's history
continues this week. Two years ago, a gunman dressed as an RCMP
officer burned down houses and killed 22 people in Nova Scotia. CBC
reporter Elizabeth McMillan explains how tracing the story of how the
Portapique gunman got his weapons brought her to Houlton, Maine. And
retired U.S. federal prosecutor Margaret Groban talks about how Maine
is considered a source state for guns.
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Nova Scotia gunman was on police radar long before mass shooting, RCMP confirm

Greg MercerAtlantic Canada Reporter
Halifax
Published June 4, 2020

This article was published more than 1 year ago. Some information may
no longer be current.

A Nova Scotia flag and single candle hangs on a pole on Highway 2 near
Portapique, N.S. on Friday, April 24, 2020 in memory of those killed.
The RCMP have been criticized over how they responded to the shooting
and for not warning residents about the gunman through the province’s
public alert system.Darren Calabrese/The Globe and

Nova Scotia RCMP say they are re-examining a 2013 domestic abuse and
weapons complaint against the gunman behind Canada’s worst mass
shooting, trying to better understand what, if any, action was taken
at the time.

They are also reviewing a policy under which some RCMP records are
purged after two years, in light of a now-deleted 2011 police safety
bulletin that warned Gabriel Wortman had a stash of weapons and had
said he wanted to kill a police officer.

That safety bulletin was erased from the RCMP’s database in 2013 –
part of an information management policy that police acknowledge
likely needs to change.

“We need to retain that information, and know about it for
circumstances such as this,” Chief Superintendent Chris Leather,
criminal operations officer for the Nova Scotia RCMP, said during an
update on the investigation.

N.S. family urges federal, provincial governments to end ‘back and
forth’ over public inquiry into mass shooting

Police told in 2011 that Nova Scotia gunman wanted to ‘kill a cop,’
document says

The 2011 safety bulletin and 2013 complaint, which came to light in
news reports, show the gunman was on the police radar long before he
killed 22 people in rural Nova Scotia in April, an attack police say
started with an assault on the woman he lived with.

The RCMP have been criticized over how they responded to the shooting
and for not warning residents about the gunman through the province’s
public alert system. Now, they’re also facing questions about why the
earlier complaints against the 51-year-old denturist did not result in
charges.

RCMP brass say they’ve identified two officers who handled the 2013
domestic abuse complaint, made by a neighbour in Portapique, N.S.,
where the gunman had a cottage. The complainant was concerned about
the gunman’s collection of illegal weapons and assaults on his partner
– including an incident where he was seen choking her on the ground
during a bonfire.

“We’re working through what records, notes and recollections they have
from that incident,” said Superintendent Darren Campbell, the officer
in charge of support services for Nova Scotia RCMP.

The RCMP initially said it had no record of that 2013 complaint.

Linda MacDonald, a co-founder of Persons Against Non-State Torture, an
anti-domestic violence organization, said cases where complaints seem
to go nowhere can dissuade people from reporting incidents. That’s a
major problem, because chronic spousal abuse and misogyny are often
linked to larger violent acts, she said.

“We’re very concerned that police don’t take these complaints very
seriously,” said Ms. MacDonald, a nurse based in Truro, N.S. “There’s
such a close connection between mass violence and spousal assault, but
police are ignoring it in this case.”

Supt. Campbell said complaints to police are taken seriously and followed up.

“I need the public to understand, when you call us, we believe you,” he said.

The 2011 safety bulletin was triggered by an anonymous tip to the
Truro Police Service from someone concerned about Mr. Wortman’s state
of mind, and his anger over a complaint about a break-and-enter at the
cottage he felt wasn’t properly investigated. The gunman’s main
residence was in Dartmouth, so Halifax Regional Police investigated
the tip, and then closed the file, the RCMP said.

An RCMP officer visited the cottage in Portapique several times, but
didn’t witness anything that would justify further investigation or
enough evidence of a danger to the public to produce a search warrant,
Supt. Campbell said.

“He didn’t see anything that caused him any concern or allow him to
take further action,” he said.

Chief Supt. Leather also suggested other reports, including complaints
and disputes with neighbours in the Portapique area from the early
2000s may have also been purged from police records.

Still, had police known about the 2011 safety bulletin when they
responded to 911 calls in April, they would not have responded any
differently, he said. The RCMP say the weapons used in the attack were
obtained long after that warning was issued.

“While a bulletin existed in 2011, it likely would not have changed
our response on April 18 and 19,” he said.

Supt. Campbell also revealed some details about an assessment done by
a forensic psychologist, which described the gunman as an “injustice
collector.”

Police use the term to describe someone who “may have felt slighted or
cheated or disrespected at any point in time in their lives. It may be
real, it may be perceived by the individual, however, as a result,
these injustices were held onto,” he said.

Supt. Campbell said at the briefing that a behavioural analysis of the
gunman has found some of his victims were targeted for perceived past
injustices, while others were selected at random.

The RCMP’s top brass also said they didn’t order an evacuation of
Portapique during the mass shooting because they initially believed
the gunman was in the area “lying in wait"– and sending people out of
their homes might put them in danger.

They now know he slipped away just minutes after RCMP arrived, driving
a look-alike police vehicle and wearing an officer’s uniform.

The RCMP don’t yet know how he obtained the uniform. He was never an
auxiliary member of the RCMP or a volunteer, Chief Supt. Leather
confirmed. He also did not get help from two retired RCMP officers in
his family, or a friend in another police force, to obtain any of his
uniforms or vests, they said.

Nova Scotia’s Justice Minister says there will be a joint
federal-provincial inquiry or review into the mass killing, but the
exact form is still taking shape. The RCMP are working on a national
policy for public alerts.

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Neighbour who warned RCMP about N.S. shooter's domestic violence says
she was 'scared to death' of him


Brenda Forbes says she sold her home and left town to get away from
Gabriel Wortman
CBC Radio · Posted: May 13, 2020 4:44 PM ET

Flowers pile up at a makeshift memorial in the small community of
Portapique, N.S. (Jonathan Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

As It Happens12:12Neighbour who warned RCMP about N.S. shooter's
domestic violence says she was 'scared to death' of him

Update: After this story was published, RCMP told the Globe and Mail
it it has identified the two police officers who responded to a 2013
weapons and domestic abuse complaint against Gabriel Wartman and are
reviewing how it was handled. Police initially told CBC it had no
record of any such complaint. They are also reviewing a policy under
which some RCMP records are deleted after two years.

Warning: This story contains descriptions of domestic violence.

Transcript

Brenda Forbes says she was so afraid of her neighbour Gabriel Wortman
that she sold her Portapique, N.S., home and left town.

Six years later, she says Wortman burned that house to the ground and
killed everyone inside.

Wortman killed 22 people across various Nova Scotia communities last
month and burned a number of homes before police shot and killed him
outside a gas station in Enfield. He is believed to have perpetrated
the worst mass killing in Canadian history.

But years before that, in 2013, Forbes says she warned the RCMP that
Wortman was a dangerous man who beat his girlfriend and kept a cache
of weapons in his home. That's the same girlfriend who police say
Wortman beat and bound at the start of his murderous rampage. She
escaped and hid in the woods.

The Nova Scotia RCMP say they have no record of Forbes' complaint and
their investigation into the shooting is ongoing.

"We are looking into the gunman's previous relationships and
interactions," Cst. Hans Ouellette said in an email.

Forbes, who first told her story to the Halifax Examiner and The
Canadian Press, spoke to As It Happens host Carol Off. Here is part of
their conversation.

Brenda, how would you describe your former neighbour, Gabriel Wortman?

One word. Psychopath.

Is that how you would have described him before you knew what he did?

Oh yeah. Both me and my husband knew what he was like. And I let other
people in the community know the same thing and what he had been doing
with [his partner]. A lot of them just said to me, "Oh no, he's not
like that."

How did he treat her?

Like his possession.

He drank quite a bit, and when he drank, he got violent. And he had
her totally under his control.

You witnessed that he was physically abusing her as well. What can you
tell us about that?

The first time … she ran over to my house, actually, and she said that
he'd been beating her and he had blocked her car in so she couldn't
get away.

I said, "You need to get help."

And she said, "No, I can't, because he will hurt me again."

    Neighbour reported N.S. mass shooter's domestic violence, weapons to police

    Nova Scotia mass killer should be subjected to psychological
autopsy: experts

There was a second time, another incident, I understand, where you
wanted to get the RCMP involved. Can you tell us about that?

He got into drinking. She was there. And there were three other people
that were there, three other guys.

One of the guys told me he had her on the ground, was strangling her
and screaming at her. And she actually said, "Don't get involved or
you're only going to make it worse.".

One of the guys told me what happened. So I said, "That's it. It's done."

I went into work and I called the RCMP and they came down to see me.

I told them what the one fella had told me had happened. And I also
said that he has a bunch of illegal weapons as well.

And he said, "Can you get one of these guys to confirm what you just said?"

I said, "I will try. I will call one of them," which I did.

And I said [to the witness], "Would you be willing to talk to the
RCMP?" And the answer I got back was, "No way. ... He'll kill me."
The faces of some of the victims killed by a gunman in Nova Scotia. (CBC)

You and your husband said that you knew that he had these illegal
firearms. How did you know?

We're military, or we were. We're both retired now. And he'd had us at
his house when he first moved there, and he showed them to us.

And we knew right away that there is no way that he would have got
them here in Canada, number one, and he didn't have an FAC [Firearms
Acquisition Certificate].

And he actually asked us, because we were military, if we could get
him a weapon or ammunition.

My husband's like, "What? No way. That's against the law."

Did you ever tell the RCMP that you saw those firearms?

When I had that interview with them, I told them then.

They said ... we had to have, like, pictures or proof that he actually
had these weapons. We didn't have that.

So there was nothing, basically nothing, at that time that they could do.

    N.S. shooting rampage highlights public threat of domestic
violence: victim advocates

    Analysis
    Advocates say new firearms ban part of 'suite of protections'
needed to protect women from violence

I understand that you came to be personally afraid of him. From time
to time you had seen other women at his place when his partner wasn't
there. And you came to tell one of your neighbours about that.

He dragged her over to my house, pounded on the door. My husband
answered the door and [Wortman] ... started screaming.

I came downstairs, and he was screaming at me.

And I said, "If the shoe fits, wear it." I said, "I've seen countless
women at your place."

And he grabbed her, hauled her out the door, and he said, "You're
going to pay for this" to me.

Well, after that, she was no longer allowed to talk to me, come
anywhere near me, nothing.

My husband ended up going to Africa for the military, and I was
basically by myself. I would go to work and come back. And as soon as
I got home, he'd show up in his vehicle, park it right outside my
house, get out, stand and stare at the house for a good half-hour. And
he did that for a few days.

And I went, this is crazy. I'm scared to death now.

I could no longer live like that. My husband came home from Africa and
I let him know what had been going on.

[Wortman] showed up again, and [my husband] is like,"Yeah, we're more moving."

So we put the house up for sale and it took over a year to sell it. We
took a huge loss in it, because I just wanted to get out of there.

The one thing that I have regret about was the people that bought the
house. I should have let them know what he was like, because they
ended up getting killed too.

The laws have to change. If somebody gets, whether it be male or
female, if they get assaulted, if they're abused or whatever and
somebody reports it for them because they're too afraid to, it should
be looked at right away.

    - Brenda Forbes, former neighbour of the Nova Scotia shooter

So the people who bought your house were killed?

Yeah, and he burned the house down.

When you learned that, what effect did it have on you?

I'm going to say that he burned that house down not because the people
that were living there, but because of me.

It just rocked my world. And for somebody with PTSD [from the
military], it's a little bit harder.

Brenda, I'm so sorry. That's just simply awful. But you can't feel
you're responsible for that in any way.

It's hard not to.

But you're not. And you did everything you could. And when he was
menacing you at your door when you were alone in the house, did you
report him?

No, because the thing with being in the military, the words were,
"Suck it up, princess." Right? You're tough. You're a soldier. Just
soldier on.

So, no. Ugh. This is hard.

I can hear that it's very, very painful to talk about this, especially
the fear that you had as well. On the night of April 18th, [when] you
heard the story of this shooting ... in your neighborhood, did you
immediately think of your neighbour?

Oh, I knew it was him. And the first person I thought of was her.

Right away, I called the RCMP and let them know everything.

And they've interviewed you since?

I've had probably, I don't know, four or five interviews.
A Wentworth volunteer firefighter douses hotspots near destroyed
vehicles linked to the killings. (Tim Krochak/Getty Images)

Have you been able to speak with [Wortman's former partner] since?

I haven't spoken with her. No.

Would you like to?

Yes, I would. But I don't think she really wants to talk to anybody right now.

What would you say to her if you could?

How much I feel for her. How much I know that she had to go through.
Everything. I'm just glad she's OK.

Do you know if she has friends, if anyone is helping her, if she has a
circle of any kind?

When she was with him, she really wasn't allowed to have friends. But
she does have a good family.

When you reflect on this and what you knew over the years that you
were observing this, are your thoughts that this possibly could have
been prevented?

Yes.

The laws have to change. If somebody gets, whether it be male or
female, if they get assaulted, if they're abused or whatever and
somebody reports it for them because they're too afraid to, it should
be looked at right away.

And if you report anybody that has what you know are illegal weapons,
whether you have pictures or what of it, if somebody reports that, it
should be investigated, like, yesterday.

Is that why you came forward to tell your story? You want to get that
message out?

No.

When I first saw the stuff happening on the news and I saw neighbours
and stuff saying, "Oh, he was such a nice guy," I went ballistic.

So you wanted people to know what he was about.

When I was still living there and I let people around me that were
living there know what he had done and what he was like, they were
saying, "Oh no, he's not like that."

Well, now I'm getting bunches of e-mails from people that were there
that I told about what he was doing and stuff. And they're all
apologizing to me.

That doesn't work for me. You didn't believe me in the beginning. I'm
not a crazy lady. What I said was true. And it just irritates me now
that, oh, you finally realize it after everybody's dead.

Sorry, I'm getting a little upset here.

Brenda, you are entitled to be upset. And I just want to make sure
that you're OK, that when we let you go, you've got someone to talk to
or to be there with you.

Yes, I have a service dog and my husband.

OK, Brenda. You've been very generous and I know we walked you through
a lot of really painful stuff. But I think people appreciate knowing
what you've been able to tell them. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Written by Sheena Goodyear with files from The Canadian Press.
Interview produced by Kate Swoger and Jeanne Armstrong. Q&A has been
edited for length and clarity.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/how-the-nova-scotia-mass-shooter-smuggled-guns-into-canada-1.6437579


How the Nova Scotia mass shooter smuggled guns into Canada

Multiple people knew where the gunman stowed guns in the back of his
pickup truck
Elizabeth McMillan · CBC News · Posted: May 02, 2022 6:00 AM AT

The Blue Water Bridge into Port Huron, Mich., in 2020. Witnesses say
the gunman in the N.S. mass shooting smuggled guns and alcohol across
the Maine border into Canada. (Paul Sancya/Associated Press)

An RCMP investigator told a close friend of the N.S. man who killed 22
people that police didn't plan to hold the Maine man accountable for
giving the killer a gun, but wanted to know about how the shooter
acquired his weapons and smuggled them across the border to ensure
guns wouldn't make it into Canada in the future.

A transcript of the May 2020 RCMP interview with Sean Conlogue — a
resident of Houlton, Maine who knew Gabriel Wortman for more than two
decades — has been posted online by the public inquiry examining the
April 2020 mass shooting.

A CBC News investigation found that though Conlogue and at least one
other person in Maine may have broken U.S. federal laws by helping the
shooter obtain two of the guns he used during the April 2020 rampage,
it is unlikely they will face charges.

    CBC Investigates
    How the N.S. gunman got his weapons and who may have helped him in Maine

It is illegal for an American to transfer, sell, trade, give,
transport or deliver a firearm to someone they know is not a U.S.
resident. Investigators believe the shooter, who didn't have a
firearms licence, obtained three of the guns he used during the
massacre in Houlton and smuggled them into Canada.

Police traced two of his weapons back to Conlogue, who told
investigators he had no idea what his friend was planning. In a
four-hour interview, RCMP Staff Sgt. Greg Vardy asked him about their
relationship, guns and border crossings.

The gunman frequently stayed at Conlogue's home and had online orders
shipped to his address. Conlogue said he'd given Wortman a Ruger
handgun as a "token of appreciation" for the work he did around his
property during his visits.
The gunman frequently stayed at his friend Sean Conlogue's home in
Houlton, Maine. He had parcels, including pieces of the replica
cruiser he built, shipped there and would drive them back over the
border. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

In response, Vardy told Conlogue it was illegal for him to do so.

"I'm not interested in charging you…. I want to know, like, the
truth," the Mountie said.

"We don't have any inkling of coming down here, coming after Sean
Conlogue for this event. This is about knowing what's happened for
those 22 families, so that in the future this stuff is not gonna
happen again. In the future, that these guns will never get across
that border."
Frequent border crossings

Search warrant documents show the Canada Border Services Agency
determined the gunman crossed the border at Woodstock, N.B., a short
drive from Houlton, 15 times in the two years prior to the shootings.

That included in April 2019 when the shooter stayed with Conlogue for
a week to help him after a foot surgery. During that visit, police
believe Wortman purchased a high-powered rifle — a Colt Law
Enforcement-brand carbine 5.56-mm semi-automatic — after attending a
local gun show.
After police shot and killed the gunman at a gas station in Enfield,
N.S., they found five firearms in his possession, three handguns and
two rifles. He obtained three of them in Houlton, Maine. (Mass
Casualty Commission)

Conlogue said he was in bed recovering and didn't go to the show, but
assumed Wortman went with a mutual friend. Vardy named the man but the
public inquiry has not released any documents related to interviews
with him.

He told Vardy he saw the shooter counting cash and remembers seeing a
rifle the day before the gunman left to return home to Nova Scotia.

"I said, 'what in the hell do you need something like that for?' And I
think his words were 'I've always wanted one,'" according to the
transcript of his RCMP statement.
Getting the guns across the border

Conlogue also told RCMP that he believed Wortman took the rifle back
into Canada by wrapping it up in the aluminum tonneau cover of his
truck.

"The day they left…. He was working on his roll-up top," Conlogue
said, adding that he "didn't want to rock the boat" and never asked
about the gun or the border crossing specifically.

Others, including Conlogue's friend, Scott Shaffer, and the gunman's
partner, Lisa Banfield, also told investigators they believed the guns
were smuggled that way.
A photo of the gunman's multiple cars, including the Ford F-150 pickup
truck, rear right, witnesses say he often used on trips across the
Maine border. (Mass Casualty Commission)

Banfield said she asked her spouse about it and he explained he'd
leave the cover rolled up and the back of the F-150 pickup open.

"So if they're looking for something, they're looking inside, they'd
have no reason to open the tonneau cover," Banfield told RCMP on April
28, 2020, adding he denied ever taking guns across the border while
she was with him.

Conlogue was also aware that Wortman had taken guns across the border before.

After the death of their mutual friend, Fredericton lawyer Tom Evans,
Conlogue said Wortman wrapped Evans's Ruger Mini in a blanket and
brought it to Maine. That rifle was another gun police found at the
end of the 13-hour rampage.
Police traced a Ruger P89 9-mm semi-automatic handgun back to Houlton,
Maine, and Conlogue told them he'd given it to the shooter as a gift.
He said his friend took a Glock 23 .40 calibre semi-automatic pistol
from his home. Police found the pistol in the stolen car the gunman
was driving when he was killed. (CBC News/Illustration)

While speaking with Vardy initially, Conlogue was vague about two
Glock handguns that went missing from his home, before explaining that
Wortman called him in the fall of 2017 to say he took them. Conlogue
said his friend had permission to use the handguns, but the agreement
was they were supposed to stay in his Houlton home.

"I didn't know until he had told me that he took those guns across the
border and I [pretty] near had a heart attack," Conlogue said in the
RCMP interview.

"It broke my heart because he betrayed trust that I'd had in him… I
probably at that time I should have said something."
Information crucial for border security

Ronald Vitiello, the former head of the U.S. border patrol, said
having someone close to the gunman report his activities could have
impacted how agents interacted with the gunman during his many border
crossings.

He said people who know an offender are the best source of up-to-date
intelligence.

"If somebody that had suspicion about his illegal activity went to the
RCMP or went to local authorities or went to the border authorities
and said, 'Hey, look, we think this individual is doing X, Y and Z'…
that might have been enough to scrutinize his travel back and forth a
bit more," he told CBC News.

"It highlights the need for individuals to report suspicious activity.
It highlights the need for both countries to co-operate on the
security regime to protect both the border community and the homeland
at large, right? Both Canada and the U.S."

The tonneau cover in the back of a vehicle would be a common place to
search if the shooter was flagged as a potential threat, he said.
According to search warrant documents, the gunman made the
approximately five-hour drive to Maine 15 times over two years prior
to the shootings, the Canada Border Services Agency determined. (CBC
News/Illustration)

The Canada Border Services Agency told CBC it uses "data, intelligence
and risk indicators to identify illicit firearms."

"Guided by intelligence" border agents use tools that include X-ray
machines, including hand-held ones, and detector dogs, the government
agency said in a statement to CBC News.

"Their specialized training, expertise and knowledge, in detecting
contraband and prohibited or restricted goods, allows them to always
be on the lookout for dangerous goods," it said.

But witnesses who spoke to police, including Banfield, said Wortman
was rarely searched. He had a NEXUS card, which meant both the U.S.
and Canada considered him a low-risk traveller.
NEXUS card for low-risk travellers

Anyone can apply for NEXUS. The program was designed to speed up
border crossings.

Applicants must go through an interview process and pass the risk
assessments of U.S. Customs and Border and CBSA background checks.

Criminal convictions will show on those checks and new convictions
will result in someone's membership being cancelled, Rebecca Purdy, a
senior spokesperson for the CBSA, said in an emailed statement.

Wortman didn't have a criminal record, though he received a
conditional discharge after pleading guilty to a 2001 assault. Meeting
conditions set by the court, which included nine months of probation
and a $50 fine, meant the case could be resolved without a conviction
on his record.

    Suspect in N.S. killings didn't have criminal record, but
previously pleaded guilty to a crime

Once approved, NEXUS members crossing land borders show their card at
a reader. They then pass a border officer who decides if they are
required to enter an inspection area, the CBSA told CBC.

Members may still be subject to in-depth searches because anyone
crossing the border can be referred for a secondary search, the
agency's statement said. Referrals happen as the result of factors
such as document validation, declaring goods and the payment of duties
and taxes.

It said everyone is required to report controlled or restricted items
like firearms and people importing goods aren't supposed to use the
NEXUS lane either.
CBSA has tip line

Vitiello said the authorities need people to flag illegal activity for
the system to work well.

"Having a regime that allows for low-risk travellers and people to
come in and out of both countries conveniently and friction-free is a
good thing, right? It helps drive both economies," said Vitiello.

"It highlights the need for the co-operation among border authorities
– co-operation with regard to intelligence and threats to criminal or
in the terrorism regime. "

CBSA said people can always report concerns to CBSA Border Watch by
calling a tip line or submitting information online.

In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the agency seized 955 guns at border
crossings, including non-restricted, restricted and prohibited
firearms. That was up from 548 during 2020-2021 when travel was
limited due to the pandemic. In 2019-2020, the agency seized 753.
Gunman linked to firearms before 2020

The 2020 attacks weren't the first suggestion that the gunman, who
never had a licence to possess or use firearms, had them anyway.

CBC previously obtained records through freedom of information that
show in 2011, a Truro police officer circulated a tip to other
policing agencies that a source reported seeing firearms at the
gunman's Portapique, N.S., cottage and that he kept a handgun in his
night stand and a long gun in a compartment by a fireplace.

    CBC Investigates
    2011 tip that warned N.S. gunman wanted 'to kill a cop' was purged
from RCMP records

    Neighbour who warned RCMP about N.S. shooter's domestic violence
says she was 'scared to death' of him

That same report also referenced a 2010 investigation into threats
against the gunman's parents and information on file about him having
"several long rifles." The RCMP said in June 2020 that they were
looking into past interactions that officers had with the shooter.

In 2013, Brenda Forbes, who used to live in Portapique, told police
she reported to RCMP that her neighbour was abusive toward his partner
and had illegal weapons.
Boasted of history of smuggling

Guns also weren't the only thing people thought the gunman took over
the border illegally.

David McGrath, the partner of one of Lisa Banfield's sisters, told
RCMP the shooter had boasted about smuggling things in university.

"He used to run tobacco over the border when he was like, I don't
know, 20 years old. He was good at it," he said. "He's been shady his
entire [life] as far as I'm concerned."
Search warrant documents outline how the shooter used a Colt Law
Enforcement-brand carbine 5.56-mm semi-automatic rifle and that the
gun came from Maine in 2019. He had adapted it with three overcapacity
magazines, which each held 30 additional rounds. (CBC
News/Illustration )

Shaffer also told police the gunman would also pour vodka in jerry
cans to make it look like he was taking gas across the border to save
money since alcohol was cheaper in Maine.

Conlogue said his friend was known to put liquor in beer bottles. He
didn't know his guns were used in the mass shooting until Vardy told
him.

"That man was in my house, that man was a monster and I didn't see it,
neither did anybody else," Conlogue said.

"Honest to God it's eating me alive…. I can't eat, I can't sleep, I've
lost 25 pounds… evil… that's what it was."


ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Elizabeth McMillan

Elizabeth McMillan is a journalist with CBC in Halifax. Over the past
12 years, she has reported from the edge of the Arctic Ocean to the
Atlantic Coast and loves sharing people's stories. Please send tips
and feedback to elizabeth.mcmillan@cbc.ca

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How the N.S. gunman got his weapons and who may have helped him in Maine

U.S. residents may have committed crimes, but it appears no one has been charged
Elizabeth McMillan, Angela MacIvor · CBC News · Posted: Apr 29, 2022 6:00 AM AT

N.S. gunman may have obtained weapons from U.S. residents
3 days ago
Duration 2:16
A CBC News investigation reveals at least two people in Maine may have
broken U.S. federal laws in helping the gunman obtain weapons used in
the April 2020 Nova Scotia mass shooting. 2:16

At least two people in Maine may have broken U.S. federal laws by
helping a Nova Scotia man obtain two of the guns he used during the
April 2020 rampage that left 22 people dead, a CBC News investigation
has found — though it appears unlikely they will face charges.

After police shot and killed the gunman at a gas station in Enfield,
N.S., they found five firearms in his possession. Investigators traced
three of the weapons back to Houlton, Maine, a small town less than
seven kilometres from the New Brunswick border that the shooter
visited frequently.

Court records and documents released by the public inquiry examining
the tragedy outline how investigators believe Gabriel Wortman got
them. They suggest a longtime friend in Houlton gifted him one handgun
and he took another from that man's home. He also arranged to purchase
a high-powered rifle for cash after attending a gun show in the town.

The shooter, who didn't have a firearms licence, smuggled the guns
into Canada. Based on American law, he should never have been able to
obtain them in the first place.
Fewer than 6,000 people live in Houlton, Maine, where Nova Scotia's
mass shooter obtained three of his guns. The gunman crossed the nearby
border 15 times in two years prior to the shootings, including a week
in April 2019 that coincided with a gun show in the town. (Eric
Woolliscroft/CBC)

In the U.S., it is illegal for an American to transfer, sell, trade,
give, transport or deliver a firearm to someone they know is not a
U.S. resident, which includes Canadian tourists. Anyone found in
violation may face fines or up to 10 years in prison, depending on the
details of the offence.
Violations don't always end up in court

It appears no one in the U.S. has ever been charged with providing
guns used by the shooter.

A retired U.S. federal prosecutor said that's not entirely surprising.
Margaret Groban said firearms offences rarely end up in U.S. courts
unless the accused is considered a risk to the community.
After police shot and killed the gunman at a gas station in Enfield,
N.S., they found five firearms in his possession: three handguns and
two rifles. He obtained three of them in Houlton, Maine. (Mass
Casualty Commission)

"Even though it is technically a violent crime and people say, 'Why
don't you prosecute the crimes on the books?', there aren't resources
available to do that and it may not even be appropriate to do it,"
said Groban, who worked for the U.S. Department of Justice and now
teaches a course in firearms law at the University of Maine.

"There could be a number of relevant facts that might enter into
whether or not public safety would be served since the perpetrator of
this awful rampage is deceased."

She added that the priority is on stopping people "actively engaged in
violent crime and using firearms to commit those crimes."

Technical violations fall much further down the list.
No announced charges in U.S.

The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Exposives (ATF) does
not have an active investigation underway, according to spokesperson
Erik Longnecker. He said he was not aware of any charges related to
the Nova Scotia mass shooting being referred at the local, state or
federal level. CBC News could find no record of charges filed in
court.

The FBI steered questions about the case to Canadian law enforcement,
and said it couldn't confirm or deny the existence of an
investigation.

Meanwhile, the RCMP bounced questions back to the Americans.

The Mounties said they have been working with their "international
counterparts," and "any decisions to lay charges on offences committed
outside of Canada, would be considered by the relevant law enforcement
agency."

    Ammunition charge in N.S. mass murder case sent to restorative justice

    N.S. gunman's spouse, set to undergo restorative justice, lived
'in survival mode,' says lawyer

Early on, the RCMP said tracking the guns and figuring out whether
anyone helped the gunman in the lead-up to the killings was a critical
part of their investigation.

Only three people on the Canadian side of the border have faced any
criminal charges: the gunman's spouse, the spouse's brother and her
brother-in-law were charged with giving Wortman ammunition.

Since then, two of the cases were referred to restorative justice,
while a guilty plea was entered on the third.
How he got the guns

Summaries of police statements released through a court challenge
launched by CBC News and other media outlets shed some light on the
investigation.

They show that, in the days and weeks after the killings, an FBI agent
conducted interviews in Houlton, as did the RCMP and ATF.

One of the people they spoke with was Sean Conlogue, a longtime friend
of the gunman who often hosted him and his partner, Lisa Banfield, in
Houlton.
The gunman frequently stayed at his friend Sean Conlogue's home in
Houlton, Maine. He had parcels, including pieces for the replica
cruiser he built, shipped there and would drive them back over the
border. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

Conlogue, 68, lives in a two-storey house with a spacious garage,
located on a quiet street dotted with aging Victorian homes. It's not
far from the members-only Elks Club in one of town centre's stately
brick buildings where he'd take Wortman for drinks.

The gunman would ship parcels to Conlogue's address, including
motorcycle parts and a light bar used to outfit the replica police
cruiser used during the rampage. Conlogue later told the commission
leading the public inquiry that he didn't open the packages, and
instead stored them at his home until the gunman picked them up.

Their friendship was close enough that Conlogue travelled to Nova
Scotia for Wortman's 50th birthday.

    Spouse of N.S. gunman describes how he unravelled weeks before mass killing

    Residents told police name of gunman, car details while he was
still in Portapique

The gunman and Banfield also shut down their denturist business in
Dartmouth, N.S., to care for Conlogue after he underwent foot surgery
and needed help getting around, according to transcripts of Mass
Casualty Commission interviews.
Conlogue would take his friend for drinks at the Elks Lodge in
Houlton. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

Some time before the killings, the gunman phoned Conlogue to say he
was going to leave something for him in his will, Conlogue told the
commission last fall.

The gunman and his spouse spoke with Conlogue hours before the
violence in Portapique, N.S., started on April 18, 2020, one of the
reasons lawyers representing victims' relatives argued Conlogue should
be called as a witness at the inquiry.

In a phone interview last November, the commission's investigators
didn't probe Conlogue on the firearms. He told inquiry staff at no
point was he under the impression he was being investigated
criminally, and he expressed concern that his statements would become
public.

    How the N.S. gunman convinced people not to report mock cruiser
before mass shooting

    Mounties who killed N.S. gunman testify they were looking for
someone 'vindictive' and 'evil'

Handgun 'sign of gratitude'

Conlogue, who declined to speak with CBC News when two reporters went
to his home in late March, met the gunman years before in New
Brunswick. They shared a mutual friend, former Fredericton lawyer Tom
Evans.

Wortman got one of the five guns later found by police — a Ruger Mini
14 — from Evans's estate after his death, according to search warrant
documents. That rifle and an RCMP-issued service pistol stolen from
Const. Heidi Stevenson after he killed her during the mass shooting
were the only guns investigators traced back to Canada.

The other three came from Maine, and court records suggest Conlogue
once owned two of them — a Ruger P89 9-mm-calibre semi-automatic
handgun, and a Glock 23 .40 calibre semi-automatic pistol.

The Ruger handgun is considered a restricted firearm in Canada,
meaning people are only authorized to use it if they have a licence
and it's used for a specific purpose. The Glock is prohibited because
of the length of its barrel.

Two weeks after the shooting, the Canadian government announced a ban
on 1,500 types of firearms, including the two rifles used in the
killings, the Ruger Mini and a Colt M4 carbine. It was already illegal
to adapt them with additional rounds through over-capacity magazines,
as the gunman did.
Police traced a Ruger P89 9-mm calibre semi-automatic handgun back to
Houlton, Maine, and Conlogue told them he'd given it to the shooter as
a gift. He said his friend took a Glock 23 .40 caliber semi-automatic
pistol from his home. Police found the pistol in the stolen car the
gunman was driving when he was killed. (CBC News/Illustration)

Though his name is redacted in search warrant documents, Conlogue is
identifiable because details match statements he and others gave to
the public inquiry.

The records state that on May 7, 2020, Conlogue explained to an FBI
agent that he gifted Wortman a Ruger handgun two to five years earlier
"as a sign of gratitude" in exchange for odd jobs like tree removal,
since his friend wouldn't accept payment.

Conlogue told investigators that a few years before the shootings, he
discovered his friend had taken two of his Glock handguns back to
Canada, and when asked about it, Wortman said he "needed them for
protection." One of those Glocks was found with him at the end of the
shooting rampage.
According to search warrant documents, the gunman made the
approximately five-hour drive to Maine 15 times over two years prior
to the shootings, the Canada Border Services Agency determined. (CBC
News/Illustration)

Conlogue's close friends, Angel Patterson and Scott Shaffer, relayed a
slightly different sequence of events in their interviews with the
commission. They said that immediately after learning of the
shootings, they were at Conlogue's house and he told them he'd just
discovered empty gun boxes in his home.
A semi-automatic rifle and a straw man purchase

That explains where police think two of the Maine firearms came from.

But what about the third?

Police believe the shooter arranged to purchase a Colt Law
Enforcement-brand carbine 5.56-mm semi-automatic rifle he admired
after attending a gun show in Houlton.

It was April 2019, and he was staying at Conlogue's home at the time,
according to court documents and public inquiry transcripts.

Paul Harrison, who was on the executive of the Houlton Rifle and
Pistol Club that ran the popular event, said all the people selling
firearms inside the arena where it was held were authorized dealers.
That meant every buyer had to go through an FBI background check
before a sale went through.
The Houlton Rifle and Pistol Club's 31st Annual gun show was held
April 27-28, 2019. One of the organizers said about 700 passed through
the arena over the course of the weekend. In order to buy firearms,
American residents had to provide their driver’s licence and submit to
a background check that would ensure they didn't have a record that
would prevent them from owning a gun. (The Houlton Rifle and Pistol
Club/Facebook)

He said Canadians could attend and browse the 50 to 60 tables
displaying everything from ammunition to snowshoes and cookbooks, but
could not purchase firearms.

It's widely understood, he said, that a "straw man" purchase, where
someone buys a gun for another person who is prohibited from being
sold one, is "not a good thing."

"For years, local people here have gone to jail for years for doing
that," he said. "So that's pretty well-known that you don't do that,
whether it's a Canadian citizen or someone that has a felony and is a
prohibited person."
The gunman responsible for Nova Scotia's mass shooting in April 2020
walks by Joey Webber's Ford Escape SUV in Shubenacadie, N.S. The
gunman was carrying a Colt Law Enforcement-brand carbine 5.56 calibre
semi-automatic rifle. (Mass Casualty Commission)


Harrison said it would not have been difficult for authorities to
track who purchased a specific model that weekend, particularly
because all sales came with a paper trail.

"They knew all the vendors that were there. They talked to almost all
of them. I've heard several say that the FBI called them," he told CBC
News.

It appears the authorities did trace the carbine's path to some
extent, though exact details of the transaction and who helped Wortman
remain murky in public documents.
Search warrant documents outline how the shooter used a Colt Law
Enforcement-brand carbine 5.56-mm semi-automatic rifle and that the
gun came from Maine in 2019. He had adapted it with three
over-capacity magazines, which each held 30 additional rounds. (CBC
News/Illustration )

In the summary of the statement Conlogue gave to RCMP, he said he was
aware the shooter went to the gun show with someone else and bought a
rifle-type gun with a pistol grip.

Police spoke to people who either appeared to have been involved in
the sale of the gun, or who knew about it. It's not clear from court
records whether the sale took place inside the arena hosting the gun
show, or was a side-deal done outside. It's also not clear who bought
the gun, and how exactly it was turned over to Wortman.

One person, who was not identified in court records, told police he
sold the gun for $1,000 US to a well-dressed older man who had a Maine
licence with an address he thought was in Houlton.

Another person told RCMP there was a "quick and dirty" sale of a rifle
for $1,250 US, and they "did not know that the gun was for Gabriel and
did not want to get arrested and go to jail."

The Mass Casualty Commission plans to release its report on how the
gunman obtained firearms next week.
The gunman's replica RCMP cruiser that was used in the Nova Scotia
mass shooting was created with a decommissioned 2017 Ford Taurus.
Police believe he shipped parts for it that he ordered online to
Houlton. (Mass Casualty Commission)

Groban, the retired prosecutor, said straw man purchases — where
someone fills out the official paperwork and the gun ends up in
someone else's hands — are all too common in the U.S.

An estimated 100,000 people are caught lying on their firearms
background check forms each year. That doesn't count the people who
get away with it.

She said by comparison, the U.S. attorney's office only prosecutes
about 14,000 firearms cases of any kind a year.

"Even if they just did a steady diet of these cases, they couldn't
even make a dent," she said.
Margaret Groban worked as a prosecutor for three decades and was the
national domestic violence co-ordinator for the executive office for
United States Attorneys at the U.S. Department of Justice. (Submitted
by Margaret Groban)

While she wasn't privy to the details of the mass shooting
investigation, she said factors such as a five-year statute of
limitations and whether someone may have shown a fake licence could
impact any consideration of proceeding with any charges.

A person's remorse could also play a role, she said, if it was viewed
as unlikely they would reoffend.

"If it was someone who …continued to give guns to people who then
committed violent crimes, then that might be someone you would
consider, that would weigh the scales more toward prosecuting," Groban
told CBC News.

"But if it was a one-off crime with someone where he had no knowledge
that this kind of awful rampage would happen, that might weigh in
favour of not charging it."
Maine a corridor

She said Maine is considered a "source state" where it's easier to get guns.

"I don't think the fact of this horrible mass shooting would have been
lost on the Maine authorities and clearly if some Maine-sourced guns
were used that's a tragedy," Groban said. "And things should be done
to make sure that that doesn't happen again."

David Pucino, deputy chief counsel at the advocacy organization
Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, echoed Groban's concern
about resources, and said there is little enforcement of gun laws.

He'd like to see Maine make universal background checks through a
registered dealer mandatory for all firearms transactions, calling
private sales that don't require them "a big failing in the state."
Twenty-two people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left:
Gina Goulet, Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean
McLeod, Alanna Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey
Webber, Heidi Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row
from top: Kristen Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond,
Tom Bagley and Greg Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie
Ellison and Aaron Tuck. (CBC)

"The United States gun problem doesn't stop at our borders. It spills
over and affects every country in the hemisphere," he told CBC News
from New York.

"It's tremendously troubling the ways in which the circumstances that
we've seen in the United States, these mass shootings, these acts of
violence are something that are happening in other countries with U.S.
guns, because we've been so, so negligent here that our country, our
lawmakers have failed in so many ways in advancing a stronger gun
safety regime."
Houlton connection not welcomed

Eileen McLaughlin, a town councillor from Houlton, told CBC News it
was unfortunate her community was now linked to the Nova Scotia
tragedy.

Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, it was a part of life to travel back
and forth to New Brunswick, crossing the border and going to nearby
Woodstock for dinner or picking up supplies when needed.
Coun. Eileen McLaughlin of Houlton says she was troubled to learn
about the mass shooting in Nova Scotia and says she's always
considered her community a safe place that doesn't tolerate gun
violence. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

She said there is little gun violence in her community and border
patrol agents are a frequent sight.

"People want to blame somebody. They want to blame a place, an
organization. They want to say, 'Oh, he brought arms over from
Houlton.' It's a reputation that just isn't fair for a community that
works really hard at enforcing laws," she said.

"The people in Houlton would never have approved this person from
having this weapon, and the law enforcement wouldn't. Border patrol
wouldn't. The sheriff's office wouldn't. And there would have been
clear legal ramifications if they had known that this had happened."


ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Elizabeth McMillan

Elizabeth McMillan is a journalist with CBC in Halifax. Over the past
12 years, she has reported from the edge of the Arctic Ocean to the
Atlantic Coast and loves sharing people's stories. Please send tips
and feedback to elizabeth.mcmillan@cbc.ca

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To: "barbara.massey"<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
<barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"<Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Bill.Blair"
<Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, jpink@pinklarkin.com, andrew
<andrew@frankmagazine.ca>, andrewjdouglas <andrewjdouglas@gmail.com>,
jesse <jesse@viafoura.com>, jesse <jesse@jessebrown.ca>,
"steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
Joel.Kulmatycki@masscasualtycommission.ca, clambie@herald.ca
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tim <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>, zane@halifaxexaminer.ca,
media@masscasualtycommission.ca

https://www.saltwire.com/cape-breton/news/ns-mass-casualty-commission-to-announce-participants-in-portapique-probe-100582762/

N.S. Mass Casualty Commission to announce participants in Portapique probe
Chris Lambie · Posted: April 30, 2021, 4:43 p.m.

Investigators want to hear from anyone who can shed light on the
events of April 18-19, 2020, says the release. “If you or someone you
know wants to get in touch with the investigations team, please
contact Joel.Kulmatycki at 902-394-3501 or
Joel.Kulmatycki@masscasualtycommission.ca


https://www.saltwire.com/cape-breton/news/provincial/card-raises-independence-questions-about-nova-scotias-mass-casualty-commission-100584621/

'I have no idea who to trust anymore': card raises independence
questions about Nova Scotia's Mass Casualty Commission
Chris Lambie · Posted: May 5, 2021, 6:46 p.m.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/we-have-got-to-have-someplace-to-put-our-trust-high-expectations-for-the-mass-casualty-commission-1.5457120

'We have got to have someplace to put our trust': High expectations
for the Mass Casualty Commission
Heidi Petracek 2016

Heidi Petracek
CTV News Atlantic Reporter
Published Friday, June 4, 2021 7:28PM ADT


https://www.canadaland.com/podcast/372-the-rcmps-portapique-narrative-is-falling-apart/?fbclid=IwAR06bHusmV2akKQL93VSkbflNz9EgApVGqkLYADBKV7v6wonaNstP_YAM14

 CANADALAND
#372 The RCMP’s Portapique Narrative Is Falling Apart
Frank Magazine publisher Andrew Douglas and reporter Paul Palango
discuss their bombshell story, and what the RCMP may still be hiding
about Gabriel Wortman.


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html

Wednesday, 29 July 2020
Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
Scotia mass shootings

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies

David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos
Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts
said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and
doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html


 #nbpoli #cdnpoli


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioT6vj0zA_Q&t=3045s


Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government


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Streamed live on Jul 27, 2020


Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac

 ----------Origiinal message ----------
 From: Peter Mac Isaac <prmibullrun@gmail.com>
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:42:20 -0300
 Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
 Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

 A lot of info to chew on - every now and then we win one - Today we
 won a partial victory when the provincial liberals threw the federal
 liberals under the bus forcing their hand . Now the spin will be to
 get a judge they can control.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxatZIus_o


Police Corruption? Nova Scotia Shooter - Behind The Scenes


86,369 views
Streamed live on Jul 28, 2020

Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
Nova Scotia Shooter Behind The Scenes with Paul Palango a former
senior editor at The Globe and Mail and author of three books on the
RCMP, the most recent being Dispersing the Fog, Inside the Secret
World of Ottawa and the RCMP. His work on the Nova Scotia massacre has
been published in MacLeans and the Halifax Examiner.


---------- Original message ----------
From: Timothy Bousquet <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:41:36 -0300
Subject: Re: fea3
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Hello, I’m taking a much-needed vacation and will not be responding to
email until August 4. If this is urgent Halifax Examiner business,
please email zane@halifaxexaminer.ca.

Thanks,

Tim Bousquet
Editor
Halifax Examiner

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Subject: Automatic reply: Re My calls today about Federal Court File #
T-1557-15 Need I say that CBC lawyers such as Sylvie Gadoury and
Judith Harvie will need lawyers to argue me in Federal Court?
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http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html
 
 
 

 


MCC - DAY 53 - MORE SLOP... TIME TO RESEARCH ?

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David AmosYou should have followed the money like Palango and I did long ago

 David Amos Palango worked as a fraud investigator for a leading forensic accounting firm In that capacity, he traveled extensively around North America investigating fraud, in which he helped the Mounties

Baylin is a cross dressing LEAF@David Amos yet the all seeing all wise Palango didn't see the Rob play coming a mile away unless he was in on the play and it was done purposely to throw out red herrings

David AmosBINGO

David Amos​I butted heads with Palango and his corrupt cop buddies in 2008

 

Julia JonesWhy is Trudeau in Halifax today for closed door meetings

 
 David Amos​Methinks the same reason the RCMP were hanging around in my neck of the woods on Monday spooking my dog 
 

David Amos​Ask Palango what he knows about the demise of RCMP Staff Sergeant Bruce Reid on Friday, October 25, 2019

 

CON-CAN @David Amos when you ask pp something, you have to expect that the answer is a lie
 
David AmosOf course
 
David AmosPerhaps you and I should talk???
 
CON-CAN @David Amos are you talking to me? I'm open to talking to you
 
CON-CAN[message retracted] 
 
J J
why can't one support both, why do we need to put each other down, we all have the same goal in here I do believe. Correct me if I'm wrong

 David AmosYes why not call me one of your friends knows my number

CON-CAN@Little Grey Cells can you check your text messages? 
 
 David Amos​I believe Con--Can is Tara Correct? 
 
 
David AmosWell are you Tara or not?
 
 
Ash LunnI thought con con was a guy that was parolee that was in prison twice? am I wrong? 
 
David AmosEXCUSE ME P MENT TO TYPE CAN
 
David AmosCAN-CON SHOULD KNOW THE LADY WHO SAT WITH TARA RECENTLY CORRECT???
 
SadMafioso@David Amos Con-Can is Tara...
 
David Amos​TRY TELLING ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW
 
 
SadMafioso'Feral Kid' Makes me think of the kid with the mullet from Mad Max 2.
 
SadMafiosoI find it interesting that Lisa Banfield forgot about how she recounted the kids "playing dead" when Wortman and her drove by in her MCC statment, but in her testimony she denied know/seeing them..
 
 
cwoodForgot about that sadmafiaso
 
Becca AWhy did the kids play dead is my question
 
David AmosWHY IS SEAMUS PLAYING DUMB IS MY QUESTION
 
SadMafioso@Becca A I dunno, but they allegedly use to play on Wortman's backhoe too. So like, he liked the kids enough to tolerate them at bare minimum. Meanwhile Lisa was super standoffish and contradicted
 
SadMafioso​her earlier statments in her testimony Friday.SadMafiosoher earlier statments in her testimony Friday.
 
 
SadMafioso@David Amos Ah! Tabarnak!
 
Chris LeeI forgot about that too Sad
 
Becca APlaying dumb about what ?
 
David AmosWHO I AM
 
Macdonald DonWho be you ?
 
David AmosPURE D BULLSHIT
 
SadMafioso@David Amos Did you know Tom Evans?
 
Peter Byker@David Amos I watched your video about the NB deputy premier, and the smoking fine he wanted to impose, interesting stuff. on the other hand, throwing darts around like that sucks. please chill.
 
David AmosALL LAWYERS IN FAT FRED CITY KNOW ONE MY CONTACT NUMBERS IS 902 800 0369 EVEN THE DEAD ONES
 
 
David AmosOBVIOUSLY ONE BYKER KNOWS ME N'ESY PAS?
 
 
Donna JjessYes Mr Amos , please don't be rude.Have a nice day.
 
David AmosWHAT WAS RUDE?
 
Donna JjessWhy do you think Seamus is being dumb@Mr.Amos.
 
SadMafiosoSounds a little like a Sugar Daddy situation. Just sayin' n'esy pas.
 
David AmosASK HIM @Donna Jjess 
 
Nosy ScotianDo you live in the hood Seamus? Lots of sirens lately. 
😁
SadMafiosoIt's Lisa McCully that Maloney is talking about. McCully is the only one in this story with a Suburu.
 
David AmosHE ADMITTED RECEIVING MY EMAILS CORRECT??? @SadMafioso 
 
SadMafioso@David Amos I dunno, ask Bill Blair.
 
Becca ADavid, if you have something to say just say it 
 
Donna Jjess@becca I agree
 
David AmosI LET MY DOG OUT IN CASE THE RCMP COME BACK TODAY BECAUSE i HAVE NO DOUBT THEY ARE READING THIS
 
Becca Astop being a
🐈
SadMafioso@Becca A You're offending my two cats.
😉
Becca ALol 
 
David AmosTRUST THAT BIG BAD BILLY BLAIR KNOWS ME QUITE WELL I SUED THE QUEEN BEFORE HE GOT ELECTED
 
David Amos@Becca A ALREADY DONE LONG AGO GOOGLE MY NAME AND FEDERAL COURT FILE NO T-1557-15
 
Becca AWhat does that have to do with lgc 
 
Ash Lunnif it's not connected to april 18-19 2020 the STFU
 
SadMafiosoWhat is 'CIRT'?
 
 
SadMafiosoSiRT* Serious Incident Response Team. But why does the MCC transcripe it as "CERT"? Weird.
 
Ash Lunn@SadMafioso so you cannot search the word SIRT if it is mis-spelled in docs
 
Macdonald DonIsn't it about time to start examining the lives of the RCMP members involved ?
 
NS BluenoseGina thought she will at her home 
 
David AmosYO @Joanne Willoughby WHY NOT GIVE TARA MY CELL NUMBER???
 
nikki lewisshe had cottage five islanmds
 
Liberty Heiress
🤔
NS BluenoseWondering same thing sounds like possibly 
 
SadMafiosoYes, there was speculation that Wortman and Banfield scoped out Goulets cottage in Five Islands the day of April 18th... It's been reported a multitude of times...
 
Ken TriolLOL I misread @David Amos ... I thought it said federal court "feral" and that sounded interesting... but it was "file"

 
David Amos YO @Ken Triol DO YA THINK PALANGO AND HIS BUDDIES IN THE RCMP ARE LAUGHING AT FEDERAL COURT FILE NO T-1557-15????
 
nikki lewiswas chad in PP sat night ?
 
 
SadMafiosoMy links aren't coping up.
 
SadMafiosoIt would be very problematic if Chad Morrison turned out to be Lisa Banfield’s chauffeur... LOL.
 
Ken Triol@David we have been in and out listening to this this morning so I am not sure exactly what you are asking me.. if you could be specific I'd be happy to answer
 
Nosy ScotianWhat a tangled
🕸
Macdonald DonOK, yeah, is a dismissive response...
 
 
NS BluenoseThis just keeps getting worse 
 
David Amos@Ken Triol PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME REAL SLOW WHY YOUR HERO BONAPARTE MADE MOST OF HIS YOUTUBES ON THIS TOPIC GO PRIVATE AFTER MY EMAILS TO SEAMUS ET AL LAST WEEKEND
 
Macdonald DonI vividly remember Leather, out of the blue revealing that Morrison and Heidi had a scheduled 'meet up'....
 
Linda MBonaparte often makes his videos private. Are they on his Patreon?
 
 
Ken Triol@David feel free to send a copy of your email to me in messenger. it may elucidate things for me. because I have no idea at this point what point you are actually trying to make
 
Macdonald DonSadMafioso...Driving Miss Shady...
 
Ken Triol@David when you say things like "real slow".. one is left to assume you are being deliberately rude to someone you don't know and I don't understand exactly why you would do that either
 
SadMafioso@MacDonald Don Lots of overturned log shade for sure.
 
NS BluenoseThey again 
 
Macdonald DonSadMafioso...I wonder if a decomposing tree would give off any warmth
 
Retire Cape Bretonash lun.. the Maloney intel go back to the American indian movement and Anna mae pictou aqquash
 
David Amos@Ken Triol ASK YOUR BUDDY @Little Grey Cells TO FORWARD MY EMAILS TO YOU AFTER ALL HE CLAIMED TODAY THAT HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THEM & ASKED FOR MORE CORRECT? BETTER YET WHAT NOT JUST CHECK MY BLOG???
 
SadMafiosoI'll take the psy-op abuse and let it put me to sleep.
 
Retire Cape Bretonshe was just asking how Maloney got background check... read up on that one later shaemus
 
 
David Amos@Retire Cape Breton PERHAPS YOU SHOULD ASK ME ABOUT THAT TOPIC
 
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Julia Jones@david go count sand
 
Retire Cape Bretonelaborate David. interesting read
 
Nosy Scotianmore docs pls
 
Ash Lunnsomeone shot on scene of CSI today. murdered. 
 
Linda MYes, knowing your own power @SadMafioso 
 
SadMafiosoSUGGESTION!
 
SadMafiosoBefore you shut it down, I have an idea.
 
David Amos@Retire Cape Breton ASK YOURSELF WHY I AGAINST THE MINISTER OF INDIAN AFFAIRS IN 2006
 
Ken TriolI like listening to @lgc also like to listen to nighttime I would be happy to listen to you if I understood what youre trying to say but your catastrophic typing is very distracting & bereft of facts
 
 
David AmosCALL ME SEAMUS
 
 
Peter Byker@Seamus, Will this comment box be available after the stream?? here's hoping, cheers
 
Retire Cape BretonDavid. lil confused. can u recommend reading
 
SadMafiosoSo like, most of us have jobs and responsibilities. So like, what if we record ourselves reading statements and upload our own MP3s so we all can listen to them as we work on other things? So like,
 
Nosy ScotianVery weird vibe. My guts jumped until Saturday afternoon
 
SadMafiosowe make statments more accessible.
 
 
David AmosCALL ME @Retire Cape Breton NOBODY EADS ANYTHING I SEND
 
 
SadMafioso@CON-CAN
😆
 Retire Cape BretonI'm not calling you lmaoo
 
SadMafiosoJust record audio and upload to YouTube?
 
Ash LunnGuy was shot and murdered on the se of CSI today in NY think
 
SadMafiosoYeah, we probably could assign statements to vintners to read out loud.
 
SadMafiosovolunteers*
 
David Amos@Retire Cape Breton CALL 1 902 800 0369 LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I WILL CALL BACK
 
 
SadMafioso@CON-CAN Also a good idea
 
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David AmosMETHINKS THERE ARE FEDS WITHIN THIS CHAT AND THE HINT THAT I WAS COINTEL WAS NOT NICE N'ESY PAS?
 
SadMafiosoIf we can learn to mechanized the process, we can make it more accessible to the masses.
 
Macdonald DonIf you use youtube, make sure you back everything up..
  
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David Amos@Ash Lunn THATS AN UNDERSTATEMENT
 
David Amos@Little Grey Cells YOU RECORDED LEON IN HIS OWN WORDS PERHAPS YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME WITH ME EH???
 
Baylin is a cross dressing LEAFcointel pro agents ride the subway carrying ducks
 
SadMafiosoI'd agree with @Oh Dear 💯

SadMafiosoOnly like 90 pages a piece... LOL
 
David Amos@Little Grey Cells WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO PLAY DUMB???

SadMafiosoTake care, I'll catch up from the morning tonight.
 
 
David Amos@Little Grey Cells DO YOU RECALL WHEN I FIRST CONTACTED YOU???
 
Linda MHave a great day @CON-CAN Do you make sleigh beds? lol
 
 
 
 

 

 




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