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Ontario joins Saskatchewan in opposing federal carbon tax plan

B.C., Quebec disagree, saying pricing carbon hasn't hurt their booming economies  

(YEA RIGHT SO SAYS TRUDEAU'S MINIONS N'ESY PAS?)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/friday-booze-limits-deal-1.4754541

Provinces agree to raise personal exemption for interprovincial booze sales

Individuals could bring 6 cases of beer, 2 cases of wine, 6 litres of spirits across a provincial border

Janyce McGregor· CBC News· Posted: Jul 20, 2018 4:00 AM E





 
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YUP Me Too

Methinks I should post my first reply to you today again within this comment thread as a double check on CBC's ethics because obviously block me all the time. The first time I did this in another comment thread of yours I was in a hurry and on the phone so I misspelled a few words and left out some info. However CBC has not blocked it thus far Nesy Pas?

FYI when I refreshed the web page to see if anyone had responded to me your "Most Liked" thread was already gone. However I did manage to save my reply which was as follows:

David R. Amos
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@George Abbott "Who is monitoring and policing this?"

Methinks the RCMP and the OPP have been busy running for coffee and donuts to bother monitor anything that may have negative ramifications for the politicians who oversee their paychecks and pensions N'esy Pas?







 
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NOPE Methinks you deserve the award.

Whereas New Brunswick does not have a Constitution we defer to the federal one. New Brunswick's not so clever lawyers failed to point that out that fact to the Supreme Court but I certainly did to all the judges I encountered in the Federal Court since I ran in the election of the 42nd Parliament. Whereas I just received another revised judgement from the Federal Court of Appeal on my birthday Premier Gallant and his minions know I have earned the right to put my application before the Supreme Court before the next provincial election N'esy Pas?





 
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CBC claims these are our words N'esy Pas?

@Andrew Hillman
So, according to what Neil says here, when I go to the LCBO to legally purchase marijuana, they will in all likelihood ask for ID, which they plan to keep in a database? That scares me. What if that data gets into the hands of the US government - will they allow me into the country? What if I want to join the Armed Forces, or work toward becoming a policeman - will that data be shared? I don't trust governments collecting such data on me.

Andrew Hillman

@Bob Foley Pragmatically speaking, that's the best answer. But it still makes me uncomfortable. I'm not a huge user, but my daughter is. I fear for her.





 
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Methinks the answer is simple . In a nutshell folks don't give a damn because everybody knows the governments are infinitely corrupt long before our grandfathers were born. Folks just want to have some fun and enjoy their lives. No matter what the governments did many folks were just happy to buy some booze highly taxed or otherwise in order to escape the madness for a while. In short order our grandchildren can get stoned if they wish on highly taxed government regulated weed and escape the madness just like our forefathers. I smoke way too much overtaxed tobacco to keep myself jolly so I should not judge anyone N'esy Pas?






 
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Ontario joins Saskatchewan in opposing federal carbon tax plan

B.C., Quebec disagree, saying pricing carbon hasn't hurt their booming economies

Ontario Premier Doug Ford, left, and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe talk with reporters as Canadian premiers meet in New Brunswick on Thursday. Ford and Moe have agreed to fight the federal government's plan to impose a carbon tax. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)



Premier Doug Ford announced Thursday that Ontario will intervene in support of Saskatchewan's court reference case, challenging the federal government's right to impose a carbon tax on provinces that don't comply with its climate change plan.

Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has been trying to find allies in his fight against Justin Trudeau's Liberal government's climate change policies. Ford said their new alliance will "send a clear message."

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 Scott Moe talks to Power & Politics about his opposition to the federal carbon tax. 7:34

To meet Canada's international commitments, the federal government has threatened to bring in a carbon tax in any province that doesn't implement an effective form of carbon pricing to reduce its emissions.
Saskatchewan launched a reference case at its Court of Appeal, questioning the federal government's jurisdiction to do that.

The two premiers met and enjoyed a campfire together on Wednesday evening, after arriving in Saint Andrews, N.B. for two days of Council of the Federation talks.

Ford said they were on "the exact same page," vowing to "use every tool at our disposal" and rally opposition to carbon pricing among their provincial and territorial colleagues.
Moe called carbon taxes "an ineffective policy that simply does not reduce emissions," saying it moves jobs and opportunities to other parts of the world instead. Ottawa's plan fails to recognize the diversity of the Canadian economy, he said.

"We have two provinces in compliance, we have two provinces in court and we have the rest of the country not meeting the federal carbon tax backstop," Moe said.

Doug Ford joins Sask. in carbon tax lawsuit vs. Ottawa

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 Ontario premier, Sask. counterpart Moe make announcement at premiers' meeting in New Brunswick 2:42

It's not clear which two provinces Moe is referring to as being in compliance. The deadline for provinces to have their plans in place is in September. Alberta and B.C. already have a carbon tax.

Quebec and Ontario chose a different way to reduce carbon emissions: participating in a "cap and trade" carbon market where polluters purchase credits, offering a financial incentive to use clean technology.

Under Ford's leadership, Ontario will pull out of the carbon market, leaving the province's businesses to wonder what will happen to several billion dollars worth of carbon credits they'd already purchased.
The premiers of both B.C. and Quebec spoke out in favour of carbon pricing Thursday.

"The carbon tax has not had the negative impact on our economy that others fear," B.C.'s John Horgan said, saying people should look at his booming economy as evidence of the advantage B.C. had in being an early adherent to taxing pollution.

Couillard said he likes the idea of carbon markets better than carbon taxes, and he doesn't share Ford's view that they don't work.

"We are in Quebec a living example of the fact that you can have co-existing carbon pricing and strong economic development. We have record levels of growth," he said.

'Lose-lose'

Reached in Hamilton, Ont., Thursday, federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna called the Ford government's recent actions "sad," saying that cutting programs that fund the green technologies that reduce emissions won't save people money.

"It's lose-lose: on the environment, lose on the economy," she said. Nevertheless, the federal government is moving forward, she said.

"Our government is all in on climate action."

Manitoba was reluctant to sign on to the federal government's plan until recently. It sought a legal opinion on the federal government's jurisdiction, but did not go as far as Saskatchewan has in initiating a court reference.

The legal advice said the federal government has the jurisdictional authority to impose a carbon tax, but also suggested that if a province had an alternative plan that would accomplish the same policy goal, it may succeed in arguing Ottawa does not have the right to interfere with its preferred mechanism to reduce carbon emissions.

This view has not been tested in court.

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Gallant on Carbon Tax fight with Ottawa

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 NB Premier Brian Gallant is the chair of the Premiers meeting Thursday 1:17

New Brunswick Premier Brian Gallant, the chair and host of this year's summer gathering of premiers, said he was monitoring Saskatchewan's case to see what will happen, but "what we're told is that the province's case will not stand up. That is the advice that we have been hearing."

Gallant's government has an emissions reduction plan, but it's been criticized as inadequate by the federal government. The premier said that McKenna "has more challenges with other provinces."
"I would respectfully suggest to her that she focus on that," he said.

Will others follow Ford and Moe's lead?

A federal carbon tax was supposed to be a last resort, imposed only if a province didn't implement adequate policies of its own.

Other provinces are wrestling with different climate change strategies that may or may not result in enough reductions to meet Canada's national goals.

Ford and Moe are trying to stir up dissent, but no one else has joined their fight, yet.

Provinces agree to raise personal exemption for interprovincial booze sales

Individuals could bring 6 cases of beer, 2 cases of wine, 6 litres of spirits across a provincial border

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Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister speaks with CBC's Hannah Thibedeau ahead of the Council of the Federation talks in New Brunswick 4:48