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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 00:20:10 -0400
Subject: Seems that Alan Watt another all knowing big talking dude
shit the bed last week
To: liveneedtoknow@gmail.com, James@jamesfetzer.com,
clint@strawmanstory.info, Carl_Herman@post.harvard.edu,
carl.herman2001@gmail.com, Brian Ruhe <brian@brianruhe.ca>, paul
< paul@paulfromm.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>,
alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com, johnstadtmiller@hotmail.com

Hmmm at the 22 minute mark I heard something interesting to me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/q3tMZSK6KgA4/

The Raw Deal/Wisdom Circle Simulcast (10 March 2021) with Mr Rho
Jim Fetzer
5083 subscribers

Giuseppe Vafanculo and David Scorpio joined me today for a joint
conversation with Mr Rho, where we were joined by Chris Weinert.
Extensive discussion of the fake CV pandemic and the hazards posed by
masks as well as the current state of politics in America, including
the trial of the officer alleged to have killed George Floyd, where
the evidence suggests it was a staged event involving the use of an
African American windpipe training torso. Check out "Deception Galore"
at falseflagconspiracies2020.com, which I have now released to the
public for free.


Obviously the wise guy Alan Watt went on for nearly 5 hours on Feb
28th One the last things he spoke of was about people ridiculing
people who speak out then he asked folks to send money and signed off
Apparently he didn't know the end was near


https://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM2021/Alan_Watt_CTTM_1818_Blurb_Great_Reset_and_Experimental_Vaccine_Informed_Consent_Feb282021.mp3


Even though he is gone his ghost still wants you to send money yet not
once did he ever answer any email from me but at least he witnessed
his buddies attack me 12 years ago

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:30:48 -0300
Subject: Yo Jim of Freedomfighters howcome the link to our talk no
longer works and was the conversation ever aired?
To: freedomfighterradio@comcast.net, Dan Fitzgerald <danf@danf.net>
Cc: DrE <dre@wispwest.net>, Ralph@jusbelli.com, drcarley@gmail.com,
jmburgermeister@gmail.com, jones alexander39
< jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, johnstadtmiller@hotmail.com,
robnoel1@mac.com, rick458@cox.net, drbilldeagle@earthlink.net,
drbilldeagle@hotmail.com, atrueott@msn.com, Sheldon Day
< gem3intucson@q.com>, lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net,
crgeditor@yahoo.com, Hawks-CAFE@hotmail.com, truthhound2@yahoo.com,
thecommonsenseshow@yahoo.com, Publisher@freedomsphoenix.com,
wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, host@davechampionshow.com,
LtShine@socal.rr.com, darren <darren@darrenweeks.net>,
MadMax@roadwarriorradio.com, kramfoknad@hotmail.com,
thejimguestshow@yahoo.com, nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com,
alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com, terry@theterryandersonshow.com

,
jrliberty@webtv.net, kwati@sbcglobal.net, jack@cybrquest.com,
michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com

From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0300
Subject: Here ya go Sheldon perhaps I will call in to talk to Dr
Carley on RBN today
To: darren <darren@darrenweeks.net>
Cc: Sheldon Day <gem3intucson@q.com>

I am listening to RBN right now and that Michael Boldon fella from New
York is talking of his concerns about the US Constitution. Perhaps he
will take an interest in mean old versus Eliot Spitzer and Bernie
Madoff etc etc

I explained a bit of my concerns to people down your way but either
the talk shows are never aired or I am now banished from their
talkshow forums.

Do I sound like that bad a fellow?

http://www.archive.org/details/JimTalkshow

http://www.archive.org/details/DarCarleyTalkshowPart1

http://www.archive.org/details/MrBaconfatTheMindlessZionistCookAndSpinDoctor

http://www.archive.org/details/DrBillDeagleAndINumberOne

http://www.archive.org/details/DrBillDeagleAndINumberTwo

4th Amendment gone


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DrE"<dre@wispwest.net>
> To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, drcarley@gmail.com,
> jmburgermeister@gmail.com, "jones alexander39"
> < jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, johnstadtmiller@hotmail.com,
> robnoel1@mac.com, rick458@cox.net, drbilldeagle@earthlink.net,
> drbilldeagle@hotmail.com, atrueott@msn.com, "Sheldon Day"
> < gem3intucson@q.com>, lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net, crgeditor@yahoo.com,
> Hawks-CAFE@hotmail.com, truthhound2@yahoo.com, thecommonsenseshow@yahoo.com,
> Publisher@freedomsphoenix.com, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com,
> host@davechampionshow.com, LtShine@socal.rr.com, "darren"
> < darren@darrenweeks.net>, MadMax@roadwarriorradio.com,
> kramfoknad@hotmail.com, thejimguestshow@yahoo.com,
> nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com, alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com,
> terry@theterryandersonshow.com, jrliberty@webtv.net, kwati@sbcglobal.net,
> jack@cybrquest.com, michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com,
> freedomfighterradio@comcast.net
> Cc: Ralph@jusbelli.com
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:30:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: It appears that even after five long years Rotten Ralphy of RBN
> finally remembered me eh Dr Carley?
>
> Dear Mr. Amos…
>
> Please remove my name from your email list !!
>
> …I have mentioned this to you once before.
>
> I do not know you, nor do I want to.
>
> I do not appreciate your uninvited opinion on senseless, self-centered
> issues –
>
> You apparently have way too much time on your hands.
>
> As I now, again request, Mr. Amos, PLEASE REMOVE MY EMAIL FROM YOUR LISTS.
>
> I do not care to hear from you again.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Arthur Evangelista, PhD
>
> PHMedFraudRsrch
>
> ___________________________________________________
>
>
> Dr.E
>
> PH & MedFraudRsrchTeam
>
> http://qualityassurance.synthasite.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: drcarley@gmail.com; jmburgermeister@gmail.com;
> jones.alexander39@gmail.com; johnstadtmiller@hotmail.com; robnoel1@mac.com;
> rick458@cox.net; drbilldeagle@earthlink.net; drbilldeagle@hotmail.com;
> atrueott@msn.com; dre@wispwest.net; Sheldon Day;
> lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net; crgeditor@yahoo.com; Hawks-CAFE@hotmail.com;
> truthhound2@yahoo.com; thecommonsenseshow@yahoo.com;
> Publisher@freedomsphoenix.com; wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com;
> host@davechampionshow.com; LtShine@socal.rr.com; darren;
> MadMax@roadwarriorradio.com; kramfoknad@hotmail.com;
> thejimguestshow@yahoo.com; nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com;
> alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com; terry@theterryandersonshow.com;
> jrliberty@webtv.net; kwati@sbcglobal.net; jack@cybrquest.com;
> michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com; freedomfighterradio@comcast.net
> Cc: Ralph@jusbelli.com
> Subject: It appears that even after five long years Rotten Ralphy of RBN
> finally remembered me eh Dr Carley?
>
> Hell even I admit it took me awhile to remember his Political Party
>
> way up North but I did call him way back in October of 2004 right
>
> after I came screaming out of that Yankee jail not long after I ran in
>
> the election of the 38th Parliament.
>
> Obviously he just found me within his email lists eh?
>
>
> From: Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd <ralph@jusbelli.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:51:14 -0800
> Subject: Fwd: So much for RBN and their Integrity eh Dr Carley?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Hoo-haa - found you in my e-mail lists and you are BANNED FOREVER in
> all of them. Don't want to pollute your mind with truth.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd <Ralph@jusbelli.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:41:38 -0800
> Subject: Re: So much for RBN and their Integrity eh Dr Carley?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> I have no idea who you are or what you reference, so therefore you
> join my junk mail folks in the sewer of "trash" automatically done by
> my Mac. So therefore I never have ever will see your incoherent
> babbling as it automatically trashed with all of the other turds of
> world.
>
> I asked for a response and you showed yourself.
>
> Can't cure stupid or fools.
>
> I still have no idea what your beef is other than benighted cognitive
>
> dissonance and now I damn well don't care.
>
> Enjoy the Abyss of Hell.
>
> And if you have even called RBN - don't try that one again as you are
>
> BANNED.
>
> I am going to check if you are on any of the e-mail lists and if so,
>
> you will also be banned.
>
> bye, bye.
>
> ralph
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:54 PM, David Amos wrote:
>
>> More or less exactly what I figured you would say EH Rotten Ralphy
>> Baby? Thjink way back in your vacant mind and you may remember me
>> calling you. for the record in my humble opinion most Yankees like you
>> don't have to play dumb like our Newfys do to get by and not harming
>> anyone most of you Yankees are truly dumb evil bastards who get ahead
>> by abusing others.
>
>>
>
>> On 9/18/09, Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd <Ralph@jusbelli.com> wrote:
>
>>> Duh?
>
>>>
>
>>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 4:43 PM, David Amos wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>>> How about one?
>
>>>>
>
>>>> YOU have no Integrity whatsoever EH Yankee?
>
>>>>
>
>>>> On 9/17/09, Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd <Ralph@jusbelli.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> What is this issue in two sentences?
>
>>>>> ralph
>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:41 AM, David Amos wrote:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/480/1181/617327/


Ralph Kermit Winterrowd, 2nd, Plaintiff-appellee, v. Brad L. Nelson;
John Cyr; Jorge Santiago, Defendants-appellants, v. Leviticus
Washington; Michael E. Burkmire; Del Smith; Dennis Casanovas,
Defendants, 480 F.3d 1181 (9th Cir. 2007)
Annotate this Case
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit - 480 F.3d 1181 (9th Cir. 2007)
Argued and Submitted July 25, 2006
Filed March 30, 2007
[480 F.3d 1182] 1182

Gregg D. Renkes, Attorney General, Stephanie Galbraith Moore,
Assistant Attorney General, Anchorage, AK, for the
defendants-appellants.

Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd, pro se, Knik, AK, for the plaintiff-appellee.

Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of
Alaska; James K. Singleton, Chief District Judge, Presiding. D.C. No.
CV-02-00097-JKS.

Before KOZINSKI, BERZON and TALLMAN, Circuit Judges.

KOZINSKI, Circuit Judge.

We consider a claim of qualified immunity for the use of force during
an ordinary traffic stop.

Facts

Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2d wasn't weaving across the road when the
Alaska State Troopers pulled him over. He wasn't speeding. He didn't
even coast through a stop sign. He was pulled over because the
troopers suspected his plates were invalid.

As is typical in such circumstances, the troopers who pulled him
over—Brad L. Nelson, John R. Cyr, Jorge A. Santiago, and Robert M.
Baty—asked Winterrowd to produce his driver's license and
registration. Winterrowd was unable to produce valid registration.1
The troopers then ordered him out of his vehicle. Because they
intended to speak with him inside a patrol car, they attempted to
perform a routine pat-down for officer safety.

As Winterrowd faced the police car, Nelson ordered him to put his
hands behind his back.2  Nelson saw no signs of a weapon, and
Winterrowd offered no physical threat to the officers. Instead,
Winterrowd explained that he could not put his hands behind his back
because he had a [480 F.3d 1183] 1183 shoulder injury. According to
Winterrowd, the officers responded by forcing him onto the hood of the
car. Nelson then grabbed Winterrowd's right arm and forced it up. When
Winterrowd screamed in pain, the trooper applied greater pressure,
pumping his arm up and down. After several seconds of this treatment,
Nelson released Winterrowd, who fell to the ground.3

Winterrowd brought this action in federal court. The district court
dismissed most of his claims on summary judgment, but found disputed
material facts supporting his 42 U.S.C. § 1983 claim that the troopers
used excessive force during the pat-down.4  The district judge
concluded that defendants weren't entitled to qualified immunity on
summary judgment. The troopers now bring this interlocutory appeal.5

Analysis

A patrol officer may conduct scores of traffic stops every month, and
perform [480 F.3d 1184] 1184 numerous pat-downs. During the course of
this work, the officer will inevitably meet individuals who cannot
immediately comply with his instructions. People are slow or hard of
hearing. They suffer from bad backs, joint problems or tendonitis.

Naturally, a police officer need not endanger himself by unduly
crediting a suspect's mere claim of injury. We recognize that some
suspects may feign injury in an attempt to hide weapons. But a
statement that a suspect is physically unable to comply with a request
does not, by itself, justify the use of force. Instead, the police may
use force only when the intrusion on the individual's liberty is
outweighed by the governmental interests at stake. See Blanford v.
Sacramento County, 406 F.3d 1110, 1115 (9th Cir. 2005). We must thus
determine whether the officers here could reasonably have concluded
that the use of force was justified.

Accepting Winterrowd's version of the facts, the troopers could not
have so concluded on the basis of the immediate offense. Winterrowd
wasn't even suspected of driving dangerously. Instead, the officers
believed his license plates were invalid. No reasonable officer could
conclude that an individual suspected of a license plate violation
posed a threat that would justify slamming him against the hood of a
car.

Nor could the troopers have so concluded on the basis of any other
fact presented here. Winterrowd didn't take a swing at the officers,
nor did the officers detect suspicious bulges or metallic glints on
his person. According to Winterrowd, he didn't resist the officers,
nor did he flee.

The officers point to only three contemporaneous observations that
they believe justified their use of force. First, the officers argue
that, because they removed twenty to twenty-five pens and pencils from
Winterrowd's person, they could reasonably have concluded that he
posed an immediate threat. But pens and pencils have legitimate,
non-violent uses; many motorists carry them. The fact that ordinary
objects in the possession of a suspect could be used as weapons
cannot, standing alone, justify the use of force. There would have to
be some indication that the individual in question intended to use
these utensils to threaten or harm the officers. Any other rule would
authorize the police to use force against virtually all motorists
simply because they carry writing utensils, keys or other ordinary
objects that could potentially be used as weapons.

Defendants do not claim that Winterrowd reached for a pen or pencil,
or that he gave any other indication that he planned to wield those
items belligerently. The fact that Winterrowd had more than the usual
number of such utensils is of no consequence. Having a large number of
pencils may suggest some personal eccentricity, but it does not make
it more likely that one of those utensils will be used as a weapon or
otherwise enhance the risk to the officers. At most, it might suggest
that the officers could reasonably exercise greater caution during the
encounter.
[480 F.3d 1185] 1185

Second, the troopers imply that their use of force was justified
because Winterrowd carried a firearm in his car.6  But they were
unaware of this fact when they forced him onto the hood of their car.
In any event, Winterrowd was well away from his vehicle, and unable to
access the weapon at the time.

Third, the officers point to Winterrowd's belligerent attitude and his
belief that he was not required to register his vehicle. But on
summary judgment we must accept Winterrowd's claim that he was neither
threatening nor physically abusive. Winterrowd believed he was not
required to register his vehicle with the State of Alaska. Such a
belief—a mistake of law—is no different from that of a motorist who
failed to see a stop sign, or who didn't realize the speed limit had
dropped to 45 miles per hour. Even if Winterrowd was adamant that
registration was not required, that attitude would not justify the
deliberate infliction of pain. Winterrowd's objections were entirely
verbal. At worst, the officers could conclude that he scoffed at state
bureaucracy. Such an attitude poses no physical danger and thus cannot
justify the force allegedly used here.

The troopers also claim that they feared for their safety based on
prior experiences with Winterrowd. The officers point to no facts that
would have justified such a fear, voicing only vague suspicions: "I
was aware that Mr. Winterrowd presented officer safety issues,
including the exhibition of a hostile attitude toward Law Enforcement
officers."

Such generalized concerns, standing alone, cannot justify the use of
force. See Deorle v. Rutherford, 272 F.3d 1272, 1281 (9th Cir. 2001)
(" [A] simple statement by an officer that he fears for his safety or
the safety of others is not enough; there must be objective factors to
justify such a concern."). The officers do not cite a single instance
where Winterrowd was physically abusive when stopped by the police. At
least one of the officers had, in fact, dealt with Winterrowd in the
past, see n. 4, supra, yet he presented no declaration that Winterrowd
had been physically abusive during the prior encounters. At most,
Winterrowd was shown to be verbally abusive; after being forced onto
the hood of the car, he called the officers "jackbooted thugs,""armed
mercenaries" and " [c]owards." Assuming that Winterrowd had used such
epithets in the past, they would not justify the use of force. No
officer likes being called a coward, but Winterrowd is well within his
rights in making such statements. " [W]hile police, no less than
anyone else, may resent having obscene words and gestures directed at
them, they may not exercise the awesome power at their disposal to
punish individuals for conduct that is not merely lawful, but
protected by the First Amendment." Duran v. City of Douglas, 904 F.2d
1372, 1378 (9th Cir. 1990).7

None of the violations that gave rise to Winterrowd's prior encounters
with the police suggest a reasonable fear that he could be dangerous.
He had been cited [480 F.3d 1186] 1186 multiple times for having
expired vehicle registrations, for failing to carry his driver's
license, for failing to display plates and for failing to insure his
vehicle. Such passive offenses cannot give rise to a reasonable
inference that the suspect is dangerous, no matter how many of them he
may have committed.

The officers no doubt had an interest in confirming that Winterrowd
was unarmed, but they had no justification for doing so in a
physically abusive manner, as Winterrowd alleges. There were many ways
the troopers could have checked for weapons short of pushing
Winterrowd onto the hood of the police vehicle and yanking the arm he
claimed was injured. Even if the officers doubted Winterrowd's claim
that he had a shoulder injury, they were not entitled to use force to
gain his compliance. When no immediate threat is posed and the police
can use other means of patting down a suspect, they may not insist on
doing so in a manner that will cause the suspect pain. We do not
require officers to risk their own safety by crediting a suspect's
claim that he is injured; we hold only that a verbal refusal to comply
on grounds of physical impossibility does not justify the kind of
manhandling that Winterrowd claims the officers inflicted on him.

We now turn to whether a reasonable officer would have known that the
use of force here was excessive. See Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194,
202, 121 S. Ct. 2151, 150 L. Ed. 2d 272 (2001). Officers are entitled
to qualified immunity unless they have been given fair notice that
their conduct was unreasonable "in light of the specific context of
the case." Brosseau v. Haugen, 543 U.S. 194, 198, 125 S. Ct. 596, 160
L. Ed. 2d 583 (2004) (per curiam) (quoting Saucier, 533 U.S. at 201,
121 S. Ct. 2151). In Meredith v. Erath, 342 F.3d 1057 (9th Cir. 2003),
we found the suspect "did not pose a safety risk and made no attempt
to leave." Id. at 1061. Likewise, the crimes being investigated were
"nonviolent offenses." She may have "loudly asked . . . to see a
search warrant" and "passively resisted" handcuffing, but did not use
physical force. We found it clearly established that "grab [bing]
[her] by the arms, throw [ing] her to the ground, and twist [ing] her
arms while handcuffing her" was unreasonable. Id. Because we held in
Meredith that the law on this point was clearly established as of July
10, 1998, it was also clearly established for the later incident here.
No reasonable officer would believe he could constitutionally force a
harmless motorist against the hood of a car and cause him unnecessary
pain. See id. That the suspect claims he is unable to comply with
instructions to put his arm behind his back provides no further
justification. No reasonable officer could have thought otherwise.

* * *

An officer may not use force solely because a suspect tells him he is
incapable of complying with a request during the course of an ordinary
pat-down. The officers here admit that they could have patted
Winterrowd down without forcing his arm behind his back. They have
shown no justification for pushing him onto the hood of the police car
and yanking his arm. While the officers tell a different story, we
must accept Winterrowd's version of the event. Because the facts, if
resolved in Winterrowd's favor, would show the officers violated his
clearly established constitutional rights, the district court did not
err in denying the motion for summary judgment on grounds of qualified
immunity.

AFFIRMED.

1

From what we can tell from the record, Winterrowd takes the curious
(and legally unjustified) position that the State of Alaska lacks the
authority to require him to register his vehicle

2

Nelson admits that he could have administered the pat-down in a way
that did not require Winterrowd to put his hands behind his back. A
pat-down can be conducted in a number of ways. The individual could
hold his arms over his head, out to the sides or he could lean forward
onto the police car

3

Because this case arises on the troopers' motion for summary judgment
on a qualified immunity claim, we present the facts in the light most
favorable to Winterrowd See Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989, 990-91 (9th
Cir. 2007). The officers claim Winterrowd turned towards Nelson during
the pat-down, but Winterrowd claims he made no aggressive moves, and
that if he turned, it was an involuntary response to Nelson's forcing
his arm behind his back. A jury will have to resolve the conflicting
versions as to what transpired after the stop.

Defendants also claim Winterrowd presented no evidence, instead making
only general assertions in legal memoranda. See British Airways Bd. v.
Boeing Co., 585 F.2d 946, 952 (9th Cir. 1978). But Winterrowd—who
represents himself—appended affidavits to briefs he submitted to the
district court after his amended complaint. Those affidavits stated,
"I . . . do swear (or affirm) that the foregoing facts in this
document . . . are true and correct under the penalties of [sic]
perjury." While this procedure is somewhat unorthodox, it
substantially complies with Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(e), because it exposes
Winterrowd to prosecution for perjury for any deliberately false
factual statements in his briefs. While we might not countenance such
a shortcut where a party is represented by counsel, we give pro se
litigants greater latitude as to the format of their presentation.
Michenfelder v. Sumner, 860 F.2d 328, 338 (9th Cir. 1988).

4

We have held that officers are justified in patting down an individual
when they plan to have him sit in a patrol car See United States v.
Thompson, 597 F.2d 187, 190 (9th Cir. 1979). The circumstances in
Thompson, however, differ from those here. In Thompson, "a standard
police identification process" took place while the suspect was in the
patrol vehicle. Id. Sitting in close proximity with a suspect presents
officer safety concerns. And, as Thompson suggests, those concerns are
heightened when an individual refuses to present identification. After
all, the suspect could be concealing his identity for nefarious
purposes.

Unlike the situation in Thompson, the officers here were not dealing
with an unknown individual. See p. ____ infra. Instead, at least one
of those officers, Cyr, indicated that he was familiar with Winterrowd
when they pulled him over; there is no evidence that Winterrowd failed
to produce his driver's license. Whether the pat-down in this case was
legal under Thompson is thus an open question. Because the legality of
the patdown is not at issue on this appeal, we assume—without
deciding—that the pat-down was lawful.

5

Winterrowd cross-appeals from the district court's grant of summary
judgment to defendants on his other claims. We have jurisdiction to
hear the government's appeal of his denial of qualified immunity
because such denial is an appealable final decision Wong v. United
States, 373 F.3d 952, 960 (9th Cir. 2004). We may exercise
jurisdiction over Winterrowd's other claims only if "the ruling is
`inextricably intertwined' with a claim properly before us on
interlocutory appeal." Id. (quoting Cunningham v. Gates, 229 F.3d
1271, 1284-85 (9th Cir. 2000)).

Winterrowd's other claims against the defendants—that they
unconstitutionally seized his property, failed to comply with various
federal and state regulations and issued citations that were
incompatible with federal law—and his claim that his constitutional
rights were violated during the course of the district court
proceedings, are all unrelated to the question of whether the troopers
used excessive force against him. We need not decide the merits of
those claims in order to dispose of the qualified immunity claim, and
we therefore lack jurisdiction to decide those issues in this appeal.
Id.

Winterrowd also raises new claims and provides new evidence on appeal.
We grant the defendants' motion to strike, to the extent that the
material presented was not before the district court.

6

Nothing in the record suggests that Winterrowd's possession of the gun
was illegal

7

Indeed, this fact may cut the other way. Having recognized Winterrowd,
the officers may have remembered that he didn't pay them the deference
they believed was their due. Their behavior, then, may have been a
response to his exercise of First Amendment rights, rather than to the
present situation. While we must consider the facts here "without
regard to the arresting officer's subjective motivation for using
force,"Tatum v. City & County of S.F., 441 F.3d 1090, 1095 (9th Cir.
2006), the officers' underlying motivations could cast doubt on their
version of the incident. This is a matter to be sorted out by the
trier of fact.

https://casetext.com/case/winterrowd-v-okuley


Winterrowd v. Okuley
Opinion

Case No. 3:06-cv-00041-TMB.

March 3, 2006
ORDER TO DISMISS

TIMOTHY BURGESS, District Judge

On February 24, 2006, Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd, who describes
himself as "a free white citizen, American citizen, citizen of the
United States of America, and Natural Born Native of the foreign state
of Kansas domiciled in the territorial boundaries of Alaska,"
representing himself, filed a petition for writ of habeas corpus
alleging that he is being unlawfully and illegally restrained of his
liberty by the State of Alaska, after being found guilty of driving
without a valid state driver's license. Mr. Winterrowd's petition,
however, is premature. He has not exhausted his state court remedies.
Until he does so, this Court will not hear his case.

Docket No. 1 at 2.

See Docket No. 1.

See 28 U.S.C. § 2254(b)(1)(A); see also O'Sullivan v. Boerckel, 526
U.S. 838, 844 (1999); Peterson v. Lampert, 319 F.3d 1153, 1155-56 (9th
Cir. 2003) ("A federal court may not grant habeas relief to a state
prisoner unless he has properly exhausted his remedies in state court.
. . . A petitioner must exhaust his state remedies by reaching the
point where he has no state remedies available to him at the time he
files his federal habeas petition."); McNeely v. Blanas, 336 F.3d 822,
825-26 (9th Cir. 2003) ("After the initial [§ 2241] petition was
dismissed without prejudice due to the presence of unexhausted claims,
Petitioner filed an amended petition, excluding the unexhausted
claims, on September 25, 2000. In his answer, Respondent agreed that
Petitioner has exhausted his remedies on the issues raised in the
amended petition."); Reutter v. Crandel, 109 F.3d 575, 577 (9th Cir.),
cert. denied, 118 S. Ct. 142 (1997) ("Only if the state courts have
had the first opportunity to hear the claim sought to be vindicated in
a federal habeas proceeding does it make sense to speak of the
exhaustion of state remedies") (quoting Picard v. Connor, 404 U.S. 270
(1971)); Zichko v. Idaho. 247 F.3d 1015, 1022 (9th Cir. 2001) ("A
habeas petitioner must present his claims to the state's highest court
in order to satisfy the exhaustion requirement of 28 U.S.C. §§
2254(b)(1) and (c)").

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED:

This action is DISMISSED without prejudice.

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:41:56 -0300
Subject: So much for RBN and their Integrity eh Dr Carley?
To: drcarley <drcarley@gmail.com>, jane burgermeister
< jmburgermeister@gmail.com>, Alexander S Jones
< jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, johnstadtmiller
< johnstadtmiller@hotmail.com>
Cc: robnoel1@mac.com, rick458 <rick458@cox.net>, drbilldeagle
< drbilldeagle@earthlink.net>, drbilldeagle <drbilldeagle@hotmail.com>,
"A. True Ott PhD ND"<atrueott@msn.com>, Arthur Evangelista
< dre@wispwest.net>, Sheldon Day <gem3intucson@q.com>, lendmanstephen
< lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net>, crgeditor <crgeditor@yahoo.com>,
Hawks-CAFE <Hawks-CAFE@hotmail.com>, truthhound2@yahoo.com,
thecommonsenseshow@yahoo.com, Publisher
< Publisher@freedomsphoenix.com>, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com,
host@davechampionshow.com, LtShine <LtShine@socal.rr.com>, darren
< darren@darrenweeks.net>, MadMax <MadMax@roadwarriorradio.com>,
kramfoknad@hotmail.com, thejimguestshow@yahoo.com,
nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com, alanwattcuttingthrough
< alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com>, terry
< terry@theterryandersonshow.com>, jrliberty@webtv.net, kwati
< kwati@sbcglobal.net>, jack@cybrquest.com,
michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com, freedomfighterradio
< freedomfighterradio@comcast.net>, Ralph <Ralph@jusbelli.com>

For the record Dr Carley you were the only talkshow host to deal with
me openly and honestly for that I truly thank you. Good luck with your
concerns.

At least this Yankee bastard finally got honest in his comtempt
towards mean old me.

Thats the way I like straight up.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robby Noel <robnoel1@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:39:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Hi,Thanks for email I'll get back to you ASAP.... Yea
right tell me another one Yankee
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Go fuck yourself shit head

On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:23 AM, David Amos wrote:

What planet are you from Yankee? Do you even know how to read? Perhaps
you should have a very long talk with Dr Carley ASAP EH?

----- Original Message -----
From: freedomfighterradio@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:08:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: RE the Fed and my whistle blowing efforts in that regard
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

here is the link let me know if you have any problems with it

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-25208/TS-241602.mp3

Patriot Act 2

WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders the National Security
Agency (NSA) may have read this email without probable cause, warrant
or notice. And now the government is permitted to listen to you via
your own cell phone even when it is turned off. Under executive Orders
to the NSA, and US District Court rulings for the FBI, either agency
may do this without any judicial or legislative review or oversight.
--Yes 4th Amendment gone

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "freedomfighterradio"<freedomfighterradio@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:59:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Fwd: RE the Fed and my whistle blowing efforts in that regard

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:36:32 -0300
Subject: RE the Fed and my whistle blowing efforts in that regard
To: thecommonsenseshow <thecommonsenseshow@yahoo.com>

These are the missing hearings I am trying to tell you about

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2

Me talking about a bit Spitzer the year before he got arrested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9iF1-AeCo&feature=channel_page

Me talking about Spitzer briefly after he got arrested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkRu0dNPUc&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kO9wiq7ytM&feature=channel_page


This is the first page of where I store of my files for public view.

http://www.scribd.com/people/view/554842-that-is-my-name-i-am-not-a-shy-political-animal

This is some of my Spitzer stuff as it pertains to New York Do you
know of dr Ward Dean?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2900409/Spitzer-and-Martha-Stewart-if

You can find some of my stuff pertaining to the Fed within this file

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2619437/CROSS-BORDER-

Anyone can see the email between the US Attorney in New York and many
other lawyers etc before and after Madoff plead guilty. I posted it
right here beginning in comment #327 within a wicked little forum
about corrupt lawyers and judges on Long Island New York

http://www.theschwartzreport.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9236&page=33


On 9/18/09, freedomfighterradio@comcast.net
< freedomfighterradio@comcast.net> wrote:
> The American Resistance Movement responds to Russian President Dmitry
> Medvedev
>
> September 18, 2009 By: Freedom Fighter
>
> The Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has requested to meet with American
> Dissidents.
>
> In response A.R.M. The American Resistance Movement (a confederation of
> dissidents across America) has officially contacted the Russian Embassy in
> Washington D.C. at 09:45 am Friday 09-18-09 by phone. We are prepared to
> meet with Russian President Dmiitri Medvedev.
>
> Will he meet with us? We shall see the ball is now in his court
>
> A.R.M. will be releasing a video press statement this weekend.
>
> According to the Associated Press, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev wants
> to get outside of the DC beltway in his next trip to the USA:
>
> Russian President Dmitry Medvedev says he would like to meet with
> “dissidents” when he visits the U.S. next week.
>
> Russian news agencies quote him as telling a group of visiting foreign
> experts that “I believe there are dissidents in the United States.”
>
> ITAR-Tass quotes him as saying: “Let them tell me what problems the United
> States has. That won’t be bad, considering the Soviet experience.”
>
> To contact the American Resistance Movement
>
> email to arm1776@gmail.com
>
> Patriot Act 2
>
> WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders the National Security Agency
> (NSA) may have read this email without probable cause, warrant or notice.
> And now the government is permitted to listen to you via your own cell phone
> even when it is turned off. Under executive Orders to the NSA, and US
> District Court rulings for the FBI, either agency may do this without any
> judicial or legislative review or oversight.
> --Yes
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robby Noel <robnoel1@mac.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:09:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hi,Thanks for email I'll get back to you ASAP.... Yea
> right tell me another one Yankee
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> You have a dial use it.....thats why they call it free speech
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:59 AM, David Amos wrote:
>
>> PUBLIC CORRUPTION The same stuff you bitch about but you make a
>> profit from
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Robby Noel <robnoel1@mac.com>
>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:43:13 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Hi,Thanks for email I'll get back to you ASAP.... Yea
>> right tell me another one Yankee
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> Whats your problem?
>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:34 AM, David Amos wrote:
>>
>>> From: robnoel1@mac.com
>>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:30:36 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Auto reply: Fwd: I am listening to your talkshow right now
>>> and just shaking my head
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Hi,Thanks for email I'll get back to you ASAP....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:26:41 -0300
>>> Subject: Fwd: Here is some things Stoffer and his political pal
>>> Thompson will never talk about.
>>> To: rick458@cox.net
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:16:14 -0300
>>> Subject: Fwd: Here is some things Stoffer and his political pal
>>> Thompson will never talk about.
>>> To: editor@southshorenews.ca
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:01:37 -0300
>>> Subject: Here is some things Stoffer and his political pal Thompson
>>> will never talk about.
>>> To: gary1@telus.net, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>, "thompson. g"
>>> < thompson.g@parl.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVg5vwndSE&feature=channel_page
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 19:52:07 -0300
>>> Subject: Whereas Fieldy Boy can't read too well lets see if he can
>>> LISTEN EH Dr Orly Baby???
>>> To: avalonbeef@msn.com, fbi@usdoj.gr, producer@onsecondthought.tv,
>>> dr_taitz@yahoo.com, hawks-cafe@hotmail.com, demerson@caifunds.com,
>>> Frank.McKenna@td.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 23:03:03 -0300
>>> Subject: Whereas the Yankee Denis Guyer personally reads every e-
>>> mail
>>> he gets he should also LISTEN closly to them too BEFORE I sue his
>>> State
>>> To: bhealy@globe.com, jonathan_a_melle@yahoo.com,
>>> Rep.DenisGuyer@hou.state.ma.us, maviser@globe.com,
>>> bob@beaconhillrollcall.com, info@teamguinta.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Guyer, Denis - Rep. (HOU)"<Denis.Guyer@state.ma.us>
>>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:56:28 -0400
>>> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: I called The Governor's office
>>> again
>>> and was bounced back to (518-408-3976) and talked to Cherkasky's
>>> associate Mr Shay to say that Yankees are corrupt is an
>>> understatement
>>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the time to contact me. This e-mail is to let
>>> you
>>> know that I received your e-mail.  I appreciate hearing from you.
>>> While I do check my e-mail, and personally read every e-mail I
>>> get, I
>>> often prefer to respond  to constituents through written
>>> correspondence or by phone. For this reason, please forward me your
>>> name, mailing address and telephone number if you have not done so
>>> already.
>>>
>>> If  you require immediate help from my office, please contact my
>>> staff
>>> at either of the numbers below.
>>>
>>> If you are NOT a constituent, or do not live within a town in the
>>> Second Berkshire District, I would recommend that you contact your
>>> own
>>> legislator. If you are not sure as to who that would be you can find
>>> out at http://wheredoivotema.com/bal/myelectioninfo.php
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the time to contact me and I look forward to
>>> hearing from you again soon.
>>>
>>> Denis Guyer
>>> State Representative
>>> Second Berkshire District
>>> District Office (Dalton) Phone-413-684-0033
>>> State House Office Phone-617-722-2400
>>>
>>> Representing the towns of Becket, Cheshire, Dalton, Hancock,
>>> Hinsdale,
>>> Lanesborough, New Ashford, Peru, Richmond, Washington and Windsor,
>>> and
>>> precinct B of ward 1, of the city of Pittsfield, all in the county
>>> of
>>> Berkshire; the towns of Ashfield, Bernardston, Buckland, Colrain,
>>> Leyden, Northfield and Shelburne, all in the county of Franklin; and
>>> the towns of Cummington, Middlefield and Plainfield, all in the
>>> county
>>> of Hampshire.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:51:20 -0300
>>> Subject: Fwd: I called each of your offices in a sincere effort to
>>> explain CORRECT? Do your people still think this is an April Fools
>>> joke?
>>> To: gtcahill@shaw.ca
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:54:01 -0300
>>> Subject: I called each of your offices in a sincere effort to
>>> explain
>>> CORRECT? Do your people still think this is an April Fools joke?
>>> To: alankler@lcattorneys.com, Mark.Hamblett@incisivemedia.com,
>>> william.pollak@incisivemedia.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:40:04 -0300
>>> Subject: I called each of you and talked to one in a sincere effort
>>> to
>>> explain why i am preparing to sue you BC DUDESbefore you sue me
>>> CORRECT?
>>> To: jim@bccla.org, david@bccla.org, holmes@bccla.org, ellardm@sirc-csars.gc.ca
>>> Cc: "Ignatieff. M"<Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca>, "Duceppe. G"
>>> < Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>, "Jack - M.P. Layton"<Layton.J@parl.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> As I explained I have contacted you people before many times since
>>> Shirley Heafey became one of your directors. Now today I heard
>>> through
>>> the grapevine byway of Youtube that you fake left dudes in BC are
>>> planning to sue me on behalf of a very malicious little man named
>>> Dana
>>> Durnford. Ain't that special?  If what I heard is true, these emails
>>> may cause you to reconsider Durnford's malicious actions or if you
>>> truly have never heard of him then maybe these emails will inspire
>>> you
>>> to finally act ethically before the upcoming election in BC.
>>> However i
>>> am not holding my breath waiting for any lawyer to pretend that they
>>> understand the meaning of the word integrity. Lets just say I have
>>> been there and done that even with you dudes correct?
>>>
>>> If you wish to continue to play dumb talk to Shirley Heafey after
>>> you
>>> listen to the MP3 file hereto attached and read the document
>>> provided
>>> in following link rather closely
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/5352212/Public-Sector-Integrity
>>>
>>> Clearly Ms. Marian McGrath the Senior Counsel of the SIRC and her
>>> buddy shirley Heafey can never say that they didn't know many things
>>> about me verus evil Feds long before the stock market went down the
>>> tubes Who do you think failed to act within the scope of their
>>> employment the most the RCMP and CSIS or the many Yankee Feds? How
>>> about me versus INTERPOL?
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/7884559/Interpol
>>>
>>> How is your money doing lately EH? Do you really think my name will
>>> remain a secret forever? What happens when many ordinary folks
>>> finally
>>> learn about my actions against the crooked bankers and their corrupt
>>> Fed cohorts over the course of the past 9 nine years?
>>>
>>>
>>> Then perhaps you will study this and the following emails winging
>>> your
>>> way to protect your butts from any of my lawsuits.
>>>
>>>
>>> O'Connor recommends more oversight of RCMP, CSIS
>>> Day pleased by call for stronger watchdog, but makes no promises
>>>
>>> Andrew Mayeda
>>> The Ottawa Citizen; with files from The Canadian Press
>>>
>>>
>>> Wednesday, December 13, 2006
>>>
>>> CREDIT: Jonathan Hayward, The Canadian Press
>>> Abdullah Almalki, right, followed by Ahmad El Maati and Muayyed
>>> Nureddin, were all imprisoned and tortured in the Middle East in the
>>> post 9/11 anti-terrorism crackdown. All three are Canadian citizens.
>>> Retired Supreme Court justice Frank Iacobucci will investigate what
>>> role Canadian security and intelligence services played in the men's
>>> ordeals.
>>>
>>> The Conservative government seized on a growing thirst for national
>>> security accountability yesterday, promising to consider
>>> recommendations for two bulked-up review bodies.
>>>
>>> The recommendation came in the second part of Justice Dennis
>>> O'Connor's report into the Arar affair.
>>>
>>> The report stopped short of recommending a review "super agency," as
>>> some experts expected, instead opting for a pair of bodies that will
>>> monitor the RCMP, CSIS and five other agencies involved with
>>> national
>>> security.
>>>
>>> Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said the government was pleased
>>> with the recommendations.
>>>
>>> "I like the fact that there will be more review," said Mr. Day. "I
>>> like the fact that he's suggesting a co-ordinated approach to the
>>> review."
>>>
>>> But Mr. Day wouldn't commit to implementing the recommendations,
>>> noting the government is still studying the report.
>>>
>>> Mr. Arar called on the government to implement the recommendations
>>> "as
>>> soon as possible."
>>>
>>> "Had there been proper and efficient oversight of these various
>>> departments and agencies, I might not have had to struggle so long,
>>> so
>>> hard for answers," Mr. Arar said. "Some of what happened to me might
>>> even have been prevented."
>>>
>>> The first O'Connor report found that the RCMP mislabelled Mr. Arar
>>> as
>>> an Islamic extremist with suspected links to al-Qaeda. It also
>>> concluded that the sharing of that misinformation with U.S.
>>> authorities likely led the Americans to deport him to Syria. Mr.
>>> Arar
>>> was arrested in New York in 2002 and deported to Syria, where he was
>>> tortured for almost a year before being released and returning to
>>> Canada.
>>>
>>> The second O'Connor report recommends two arm's-length bodies to
>>> review national security activities.
>>>
>>> The first would be called the Independent Complaints and National
>>> Security Review Agency (ICRA) for the RCMP. Essentially, it will
>>> be a
>>> restructured version of the RCMP public complaints commission. The
>>> agency would have the power to investigate all RCMP activities, not
>>> just national security.
>>>
>>> Judge O'Connor determined that existing accountability and review of
>>> the RCMP was "not adequate," partly because of the "inability of a
>>> complaints-based process" to ensure that secretive national security
>>> operations respect individual rights and freedoms.
>>>
>>> Unlike the complaints commission, the new agency would have the
>>> authority to conduct self-initiated reviews. It would also have the
>>> power to subpoena documents and compel testimony from any individual
>>> or entity. The Canada Border Services Agency would also fall under
>>> its
>>> oversight. Judge O'Connor said he put the two agencies under one
>>> body
>>> because reviewing such agencies "requires special expertise and
>>> experience" in the field.
>>>
>>> In a statement, the RCMP said any new review mechanism for its
>>> national security activities must be comprehensive enough to ensure
>>> public confidence is maintained without compromising the force's
>>> ability to do its job.
>>>
>>> "Effective and appropriate review is essential for the RCMP and the
>>> public," said Assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell of RCMP National
>>> Security Investigations. "It reassures all of us that the RCMP is
>>> holding true to its values by respecting the rights and freedoms
>>> Canadians enjoy. At the same time, we would want to ensure that the
>>> RCMP is still able to fulfil its mandate."
>>>
>>> Shirley Heafey, the now-retired head of the existing RCMP complaints
>>> commission, lamented that her office lacked the necessary powers and
>>> tools to probe the RCMP's national security activities. Ms. Heafey's
>>> successor, Paul Kennedy, has echoed her call for more authority to
>>> monitor RCMP intelligence investigations.
>>>
>>> Judge O'Connor also recommended substantially expanding the mandate
>>> of
>>> the Security Intelligence Review Committee, which now reviews the
>>> Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
>>>
>>> The expanded SIRC would also monitor the national security
>>> activities
>>> of Citizenship and Immigration Canada, Transport Canada, the
>>> Financial
>>> Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre, and the Department of
>>> Foreign Affairs and International Trade.
>>>
>>> If the recommendations are implemented, Canada would have three main
>>> national security review bodies: ICRA, SIRC and the commissioner of
>>> the Communications Security Establishment, which tracks foreign
>>> intelligence. Judge O'Connor suggests the heads of those offices, as
>>> well as another individual, form a committee to keep tabs on the
>>> review process and serve as a centralized "intake" for complaints.
>>>
>>> He also recommends the appointment of an independent individual who
>>> would determine if the review objectives are being met in five
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Some MPs questioned the report's lukewarm opinion on a parliamentary
>>> oversight committee that would also monitor national security
>>> activities.
>>>
>>> Freya Kristjanson, one of the inquiry lawyers, said Judge O'Connor
>>> didn't touch on parliamentary oversight because that wasn't part of
>>> his mandate.
>>>
>>> To view a video report on the Arar report, please go to Today's
>>> Videos
>>> at www.ottawacitizen.com
>>>
>>> What the Acronyms Mean
>>>
>>> ICRA: Independent Complaints and National Security Review Agency, a
>>> new body that would monitor the security activities of the RCMP and
>>> the Canada Border Services Agency.
>>>
>>> SIRC: Security Intelligence Review Committee, already existing,
>>> which
>>> monitors CSIS, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service.
>>>
>>> CSE: Communications Security Establishment, now in existence, is the
>>> government's electronic spy agency.
>>>
>>> Ran with fact box "What the Acronyms Mean", which has been appended
>>> to the story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bccla.org/bios/heafey.html
>>>
>>> Ms. Heafey was appointed Director of Appeal/Complaints at the
>>> newly-formed Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC), a
>>> civilian
>>> agency that oversees the activities of the Canadian Security
>>> Intelligence Service. Ms. Heafey was primarily responsible for
>>> conducting investigations on matters of national security. Ms.
>>> Heafey
>>> graduated with a law degree from the University of Ottawa Law
>>> School.
>>> She also studied Islamic Law and Administrative Law at Harvard Law
>>> school, and received certificates in Advanced Negotiation and
>>> Mediation from Harvard. In 1993, she established her own law firm,
>>> concentrating on administrative law, employment law, and human
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> Ms. Heafey was appointed as a member of Commission for Public
>>> Complaints Against the RCMP presiding over quasi-judicial hearings
>>> inquiring into public complaints about police conduct. In addition
>>> to
>>> presiding over sweeping changes in the structure and operation of
>>> the
>>> Commission, she has instituted the largest and most far-reaching
>>> public interest hearing and public interest investigation in the
>>> Commission's history. Ms. Heafey made two sets of significant
>>> submissions to Mr. Justice O'Connor's enquiry into the Maher Arar
>>> matter. As Chair, she has traveled extensively across Canada to
>>> promote understanding, and to enhance public awareness of the
>>> Commission's important role. Ms. Heafey completed her 8-year term as
>>> Chair of the Complaints Commission in October 2005.
>>>
>>> Ms. Heafey was also a part-time Assistant City Solicitor (Ottawa)
>>> conducting litigation and defending challenges to municipal laws
>>> based
>>> on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, appointed Chair of
>>> City of Gloucester Task Force reporting on Remuneration of Elected
>>> Representatives and appointeded as member of the Evaluation
>>> Committee
>>> for the Action 21 Program at Environment Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:40:01 -0300
>>> Subject: Re Madoff and the SEC etc I called each of you and talked
>>> to
>>> a few in  a sincere effort to explain these emails correct?
>>> To: EDitor@ripoffreport.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:06:07 -0300
>>> Subject: Re Madoff and the SEC etc I called each of you and talked
>>> to
>>> a few in  a sincere effort to explain these emails correct?
>>> To: vasilescua@sec.gov, friedmani@sec.gov, krishnamurthyp@sec.gov,
>>> horwitzd@dsmo.com, wrobleskin@dsmo.com, wolfem@dicksteinshapiro.com,
>>> Lisa.Baroni@usdoj.gov, ssbny@aol.com, service@ssbla.com,
>>> rwing@lswlaw.com, rriccio@mdmc-law.com, lmodugno@mdmc-law.com,
>>> griffinger@gibbonslaw.com, mmulholland@rmfpc.com,
>>> kmalerba@rmfpc.com,
>>> tlieverman@srkw-law.com
>>> Cc: John.Sinclair@nbimc.com, Norma.Kennedy@nbimc.com,
>>> jan.imeson@nbimc.com, mc.blais@pcnb.org
>>>
>>> These are some of the emails that the US Attorney had filed under
>>> seal
>>> this week.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:54:28 -0300
>>> Subject: We just talked Mr. Litt the instant you bullshitted me I
>>> knew
>>> the  score between you, the FBI and I CORRECT?
>>> To: Marc.Litt@usdoj.gov
>>> Cc: "fbinhct@leo.gov"<fbinhct@leo.gov>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:39:50 -0300
>>> Subject: Fwd: RE CASIS I really don't understand how your buddy
>>> Charters or  the RCMP or the FBI sleep at night Do you?
>>> To: PChavkin@mintz.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:46:36 -0400
>>> Subject: RE CASIS I really don't understand how your buddy Charters
>>> or
>>> the  RCMP or the FBI sleep at night Do you?
>>> To: rbcraig84@hotmail.com, Johnson@uga.edu,
>>> r.j.aldrich@warwick.ac.uk
>>> Cc: charters@unb.ca
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:47:52 -0400
>>> Subject: Fwd: I really don't understand how the RCMP or the FBI
>>> sleeps
>>> at  night Do you?
>>> To: cacp@cacp.ca, moored@halifax.ca, smacpherson@bmdlaw.ca,
>>> rpink@labour-law.com, cpa-acp@cpa-acp.ca, nkokil@ipccanada.com,
>>> cpc-ccp@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> lleclair@magma-amgm.org, "Paulette. Delaney-Smith"
>>> < Paulette.Delaney-Smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, jlobo@fsco.gov.on.ca,
>>> support.tmt@gmail.com, afrimax@gmail.com,
>>> communications@protectchildren.ca, takebacktheland@gmail.com,
>>> ocap@tao.ca, news@nowtoronto.com, news@cfrb.com
>>> Cc: haneyt <haneyt@gov.ns.ca>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos
>>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:09:30 -0800 (PST)
>>> Subject: Fwd: I really don't understand how the RCMP or the FBI
>>> sleeps
>>> at  night Do you?
>>> To: karyn.morrison@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, marc.proulx@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Fwd: I really don't understand how the RCMP or the FBI
>>> sleeps
>>> at night Do you?
>>> To: Robyn@bchrcoalition.org, info@probononet.bc.ca,
>>> claire.trevena.mla@leg.bc.ca, bill.barisoff.mla@leg.bc.ca,
>>> info@opcc.bc.ca, electionsbc@elections.bc.ca,
>>> lcs.minister@gov.bc.ca,
>>> rkunin@rkunin.com, plegg@fpse.ca, joe@lincor.ca, gmorfitt@uvic.ca,
>>> rroger@shaw.ca, harderh@unbc.ca, iain.black.mla@leg.bc.ca,
>>> bill.bennett.mla@leg.bc.ca, max@baucus.senate.gov,
>>> barrett_kaiser@baucus.senate.gov, john.vandongen.mla@leg.bc.ca
>>> Cc: "flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca"<flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca>
>>> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 10:32 AM
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:52:32 -0400
>>> Subject: Fwd: I really don't understand how the RCMP or the FBI
>>> sleeps
>>> at  night Do you?
>>> To: db.ir@db.com
>>>
>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>  Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:26
>>> PM
>>> To: david.straube@accenture.com
>>> Cc: webo <webo@xplornet.com>
>>> Bcc: myson333 <myson333@yahoo.com>, David Amos
>>> < motomaniac02186@yahoo.com>, wernerbock333 <wernerbock333@yahoo.ca>
>>> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
>>> hey David Straube
>>>
>>> thanx for the response too bad you don't have more competent help.
>>> seems that i had to put you over a barrel first. EH? As far as your
>>> question goes you have it backwards sir  It is how I can help you.
>>>
>>> Helping yourself starts by picking up the phone instead of allowing
>>> your help to slander and laugh at my concerns. Perhaps after you
>>> read
>>> and listen what I already sent  you should call me back with a
>>> lawyer
>>> who understands ethical conduct mandated by people acting on behalf
>>> of
>>> a publicly held company.
>>>
>>> I can be reached at 506 756 8687 for a while.
>>>
>>> Veritas vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>
>>> - Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09, david.straube@accenture.com
>>> < david.straube@accenture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> You called my office earlier today, how can I help you?
>>>>
>>>> David Straube
>>>> Accenture
>>>>
>>>> Executive Assistant: Patty Hyland
>>>> patricia.a.hyland@accenture.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:32:32 -0400
>>> Subject: I really don't understand how the RCMP or the FBI sleeps at
>>> night Do  you?
>>> To: nancy_clancy@ml.com, Joanne_Sewell@ml.com,
>>> Michael_Northcott@ml.com
>>> Cc: "fbinhct@leo.gov"<fbinhct@leo.gov>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:24:58 -0400
>>> Subject: I really don't understand how the RCMP sleeps at night Do
>>> upu?
>>> To: julius.grey@sympatico.ca, juliushgrey@bellnet.ca,
>>> djohnston@thegazette.canwest.com, info@tolerance.ca,
>>> p@cyberpresse.ca,
>>> communication@cyberpresse.ca, michael1@midcoast.com,
>>> cjamet@lapresse.ca, vanlop1 <vanlop1@parl.gc.ca>
>>> Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
>>> < william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
>>> "warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
>>> < warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
>>> "Gilles. Blinn"<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "roger.
>>> gillies"
>>> < Roger.Gillies@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "jacques.boucher"
>>> < jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
>>> "sandra.conlin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
>>> < Sandra.Conlin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:44:38 -0400
>>> Subject: I really don't understand how kids like you sleep at night
>>> To: info@theprintedblog.com, q <q@cbc.ca>
>>> Cc: MohawkNationNews <orakwa@paulcomm.ca>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:12:31 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn to the lady in the Bcc line thanks for the email I
>>> willl
>>> call  you shortly
>>> To: prourke@ccs.carleton.ca, monique_moreau@carleton.ca,
>>> dburney@ogilvyrenault.com, checkup <checkup@cbc.ca>
>>> Cc: we <leader@greenparty.ca>, "dominic. leblanc"
>>> < dominic.leblanc@nb.aibn.com>, "Oliphant.R"
>>> < Oliphant.R@parl.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:29:46 -0400
>>> Subject: RE: Williams & Connolly LLP Whereas your honest computer is
>>> being redundant you should listen closely now EH?
>>> To: ljackson@wc.com, GCraig@wc.com
>>> Cc: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca"<Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> "Ignatieff. M"
>>> < Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca>, dions1 <dions1@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> "Duceppe. G"
>>> < Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>, "layton. j"
>>> < Layton.J@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> leader@greenparty.ca
>>>
>>> From: "Craig, Gregory"<GCraig@wc.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:26:27 -0500
>>> Subject: Williams & Connolly LLP
>>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> You have addressed an e-mail to Gregory Craig, an attorney who is no
>>> longer practicing law with Williams & Connolly LLP.  If you would
>>> like
>>> forwarding information regarding Gregory Craig, or if you need to
>>> speak
>>> with another attorney, please contact Laurie Jackson, the Benefits
>>> Administrator, at (202) 434-5604 or ljackson@wc.com.   Thank you.
>>>
>>>
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>>> NOTICE:
>>>
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>>> which it is addressed and may contain information that is
>>> privileged,
>>> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the
>>> reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee
>>> or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended
>>> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
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>>> If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
>>> immediately by reply or by telephone (call us collect at (202)
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>>> ====================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:20:15 -0400
>>> Subject: Other peoples words not mine Ask the Chaiman of the SEC or
>>> the RCMP about it I double dog dare ya to.
>>> To: pauls@herald.ns.ca, MaryAgnes.Welch@freepress.mb.ca, caj@caj.ca,
>>> chairmanoffice <chairmanoffice@sec.gov>, chairman@caj.ca
>>> Cc: "Paulette. Delaney-Smith"
>>> < Paulette.Delaney-Smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> President
>>> Mary Agnes Welch
>>> Winnipeg Free Press - Winnipeg
>>> 204-943-6575 Office
>>> 204-470-8862 Cell
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:54:39 -0400
>>> Subject: Other peoples words not mine
>>> To: "Duceppe. G"<Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>, "layton. j"
>>> < Layton.J@parl.gc.ca>, dions1 <dions1@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> leader@greenparty.ca, webo <webo@xplornet.com>, Dan Fitzgerald
>>> < danf@danf.net>, nbpolitico <nbpolitico@gmail.com>, "nb.
>>> premier"
>>> < nb.premier@gmail.com>, "forest@conservationcouncil.ca"
>>> < forest@conservationcouncil.ca>, "John. Foran"
>>> < John.Foran@gnb.ca>,
>>> "Frank. McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
>>> freddybeachsleuth@gmail.com,
>>> "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "oldmaison.
>>> wcie"
>>> < oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com>, gypsy-blog <gypsy-blog@hotmail.com>,
>>> gensongillespie <gensongillespie@aol.com>, "Gilles. Blinn"
>>> < Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, gcraig <gcraig@wc.com>,
>>> "Robert. Jones"
>>> < Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, jacques_poitras <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>,
>>> "jack. keir"<jack.keir@gnb.ca>, "jeff. mockler"
>>> < jeff.mockler@gnb.ca>, "Prentice. J"
>>> < Prentice.J@parl.gc.ca>, "Weston.
>>> R"<Weston.R@parl.gc.ca>
>>> Cc: "spinks08@hotmail.com"<spinks08@hotmail.com>, "day.
>>> s"
>>> < day.s@parl.gc.ca>, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>, "richard.
>>> dearden"
>>> < richard.dearden@gowlings.com>, "t.j.burke@gnb.ca"
>>> < t.j.burke@gnb.ca>,
>>> "tomp. young"<tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com>,
>>> "Goodale. R"
>>> < Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca>, tim4nm <tim4nm@gmail.com>, "tim.
>>> porter"
>>> < Tim.Porter@gnb.ca>
>>>
>>> Gilles Ducceppe really should spill the beans ASAP EH Spinksey Baby?
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>> <TaxDude_64kb.mp3>

 


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