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NDP won't give Trudeau 'excuse' for election, Singh says ahead of confidence vote in Commons
MPs to vote on Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending
· CBC News· Posted: Oct 21, 2020 11:45 AM ET
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today he won't give the Liberal government an 'excuse' to call an election. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today that his party will not give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau an "excuse" to send Canadians to the polls in the middle of a global pandemic — an apparent signal that Trudeau's government will survive today's confidence vote.
In a news conference just two hours before a crucial confidence vote, Singh declined to say exactly how his MPs would vote or whether they might abstain.
"We are voting for Canadians. We are voting against an election," he said.
Singh said the NDP will still work to get answers on the WE Charity scandal through the Commons ethics committee, and that his party will push the government for more pandemic support for Canadians.
"People need help right now. They need confidence in the future. They're not looking for an election," he said.
"So New Democrats will not give Prime Minister Trudeau the election he's looking for. We're not going to be used as an excuse or a cover. We're going to continue to do the work that we need to do."
The Bloc Québécois had already confirmed it will support the Conservative motion, possibly leaving the outcome in the hands of the NDP.
The Green Party has confirmed that its three MPs will vote against the motion.
The vote is expected to happen around 3:15 p.m. ET and CBCNews.ca will carry it live.
The opposition day motion would create a special committee to probe the Trudeau government's ethics and spending in response to the pandemic — including the controversial WE Charity contract to administer a student volunteer grant program.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not recuse himself from talks on the agreement, even though several of his family members had been paid for speaking engagements by the organization.
The Liberal government has declared the vote on the Conservative motion a matter of confidence that could trigger an election — a high-stakes move that NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has called a "farce."
In a news conference before the vote, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said if the motion does not pass, he will continue to work with other parties to hold the government to account. He criticized the government and Trudeau for framing the vote as a confidence matter.
"His designation of this vote as a confidence vote shows that he's willing to put the electoral fortunes of the Liberal Party ahead of the health, safety and well-being of Canadians," he said.
"Most Canadians would think that's unacceptable."
WATCH / Erin O'Toole on confidence vote:
Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole spoke with reporters just after NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh stated that the NDP would not bring down the government in the confidence vote. 0:56
Speaking to reporters after the Liberal caucus meeting, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.
"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.
Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that.
WATCH / Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland on possible election:
Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland says she's focused on passing legislation to support Canadians during the pandemic as a confidence vote looms in Parliament today. 1:39
Heading into their weekly caucus meeting this morning, NDP MPs said they had not yet decided on a path forward and would talk about how to proceed behind closed doors.
"At the end of the day we have a lot of moving parts and we're still in a pandemic and we're still committed to fighting for Canadians and we're going to continue to do that," said Ontario NDP MP Matthew Green.
"We have to look at what all the variables are going in to this discussion and do what's best for the country."
Asked by reporters if the NDP had an obligation to support the Conservative motion, NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said, "There's many ways to skin a cat, my friends."
WATCH / NDP MPs on today's confidence vote:
NDP MPs arrived for their weekly caucus meeting in Ottawa on Wednesday. 1:26
onservative House leader Gérard Deltell said the ethical questions surrounding the government require a special committee with a clear mandate. He said it's the "duty" of opposition parties to hold the government to account.
"This is what the issue is all about with this motion, and what we see right now is a prime minister who will do whatever it takes to call an election," he said.
"The only Canadian who would like to have an election today is the prime minister. The only Canadian who would like to freeze the government for a few months is the prime minister by calling an election."
The Conservatives amended the original motion to state that voting to launch the committee should not be considered grounds to order an election.
It also dropped the "anti-corruption committee" label it initially proposed.
Bloc Québécois House leader Alain Therrien said the WE Charity issue is so complex that it requires a special committee to get answers.
He said the Liberals'"scorched-earth" approach to politics is the product of a "club of cronyism" and renders compromise impossible.
He also criticized the NDP, suggesting the party's MPs have obediently followed Liberal demands.
"The NDP have acted in the last little while a little like the Liberals' lap dog," he said.
'Unwelcome drama': Paul
Green Party Leader Annamie Paul issued a statement urging the parties to cool their jets, calling the brinkmanship "unwelcome drama."
"The Liberal and Conservative parties' high-stakes, high-tech game of chicken can have no winner," she said.
"They should leave such games outside of Parliament, and focus on the urgent needs of people in Canada. I ask members of Parliament to dial down the rhetoric, which is not in keeping with the seriousness of this unprecedented moment, so that we can get back to working on the critical matters at hand."
With files from The Canadian Press
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Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas?
As soon as new carbon taxes and other taxes start to come to pay off the existing interest on the trillion dollar debt, everybody will start to miss those few billions of dollars, you are correct.
My point being is that before long the interest alone may become impossible for Canada to pay, let alone any principle. I've read opinions from economists saying Canada will soon get to a point where it has to borrow money to make interest payments. If there is any truth to that, we are in deep kaka. I believe we are in that deep.
Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas?
Why? The Teacher has the class under control. Tool and the gang sat down as expected.
"Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.
"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.
Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that."
Go Figure
"The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.
Should the Government of Canada determine that a third-party managed solution going forward is a viable strategy, Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) may issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide suppliers the opportunity to bid on the services required as per the schedule contained in this document.'
Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17
Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)
Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:
Dear REMOVED,
I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).
I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.
All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
The conservatives will make another motion basically identical to this one and Trudeau will just call an election or Liberals will abstain from the vote. We vote before Christmas...
Conservatives & NDP will complain but Conservative Moe called an election just like NDP Horgan and Conservative Higgs.
"The 2020 Saskatchewan general election will be held on October 26, 2020 to elect members of the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan. This date is set by Saskatchewan's fixed election date law. The writ was dropped on September 29 just in time to hold the election on October 26."
Do tell hows things going for you out west? Do ya miss Higgy et al and your old buddies in Vestcor even a little bit?
Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas?
NDP voted against such a committee though...
I went to an open bar at me in-laws in Arisaig the other night. Drank me self to sleep while the party raged on. Love me Arisaig. Messy paw?
Methinks something is in the wind that smells very bad indeed N'esy Pas/
"Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.
"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.
Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that."
Go Figure
"The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.
Should the Government of Canada determine that a third-party managed solution going forward is a viable strategy, Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) may issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide suppliers the opportunity to bid on the services required as per the schedule contained in this document.'
Huh. Same page? NDP propped them up - again.
While ‘working’ with the Bloc.
POLITICAL DOGMA
Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier
Canadian Press
To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.
In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.
Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."
Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."
"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
I’m a mutt, the science-tiffix term being ‘Heinz 57’.
Wuff.
The worst PM was one before him; he is much better than him and other cons that we had.
Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17
Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)
Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:
Dear REMOVED,
I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).
I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .
Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.
So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.
All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
Redacted.
We should be busy buying made in China goods. Support the new world order.
‘Politricks are for those that not.’
~Wizard of Oz
Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17
Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker 1:47 PM (7 hours ago)
Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED wrote:
Dear REMOVED,
I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).
I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .
Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.
So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.
All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
May I take a convalescence vacation to your place? We can visit Livingstones Cove circa ‘73.
POLITICAL DOGMA
Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier
Canadian Press
To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.
In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.
Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."
Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."
"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
Single biggest problem in the West today is our social media.
Agree, you find exacty the opinion, you want to find. Scary. Social media is the curse now.
Says the super clown.
Methinks many would say the same of you N'esy Pas?
The irrefutable proof is the simple fact that since 2015 Harper and now Trudeau will not put his statue on the grounds of the Capital District so that his ghost can remind them of their failings and many wrongs N'esy Pas?
Why would he?
When the NDP was official opposition and the Cons had a majority, the NDP got nothing done at all, and watched their agenda decimated and shredded. At least the Liberals listen to the NDP.
Snap election averted as Liberal government survives confidence vote in Commons
MPs defeat Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending
Canadians will not be heading to the polls for a snap fall election now that the Liberal government has survived a confidence vote on a Conservative motion to create a special committee to probe the government's ethics and pandemic spending.
MPs voted 180-146 to defeat the opposition motion, with the NDP, Greens and Independent MPs voting with the Liberals.
Despite the vote, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh would not say today that he has confidence in the government.
"I am confident that we can keep on fighting for people and we've shown that we've won for people," he told Vassy Kapelos, host of CBC News Network's Power & Politics.
"In this case, what it was really about, what became really clear, was that Prime Minister Trudeau was looking for an excuse to go to an election and we did not want to give Justin Trudeau an excuse to go to an election."
In a news conference just two hours before the confidence vote, Singh said the NDP will still work to get answers on the WE Charity scandal through the Commons ethics committee, and that his party will push the government for more pandemic support for Canadians.
The Bloc Québécois had already confirmed it will support the Conservative motion, while the Green Party indicated that its three MPs would vote against the motion.
The opposition day motion would have created a special committee to probe the Trudeau government's ethics and spending in response to the pandemic — including the controversial WE Charity contract to administer a student volunteer grant program.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not recuse himself from talks on the agreement, even though several of his family members had been paid for speaking engagements by the organization.
The Liberal government has declared the vote on the Conservative motion a matter of confidence that could trigger an election — a high-stakes move that NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called a "farce."
WATCH: Singh explains why NDP MPs voted to support the Liberal government:
In a news conference before the vote, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said if the motion doesn't pass, he would continue to work with other parties to hold the government to account. He criticized the government and Trudeau for framing the vote as a confidence matter.
"His designation of this vote as a confidence vote shows that he's willing to put the electoral fortunes of the Liberal Party ahead of the health, safety and well-being of Canadians," he said.
"Most Canadians would think that's unacceptable."
Singh told Kapelos that its "pretty rich for the Conservatives" to suggest that the special committee is the only way to get answers when other facts and details about WE Charity came to light at regular committees.
"The Conservatives would have you believe this is the only way to get to the bottom of the spending scandal with the Liberal government. That's not the case," he said. "So far, ministers have testified, documents have been produced, the Kielburger brothers testified, all at regular committees. The ethics and the finance committee."
Speaking after the vote, Conservative House Leader Candice Bergen said her party does not regret putting forward the motion and argued the prime minister put his own political self-interest ahead of the health and safety of Canadians.
"We don't regret doing our job. Our job is to hold the government to account. Our job is to ask tough questions. We didn't expect them to like it but we certainly didn't think the prime minister was going to be that arrogant and say that he was going to make it a confidence motion to cover himself and protect his own interests," she told Kapelos.
WATCH: Conservative House leader Candice Bergen reacts as government survives confidence vote:
Speaking to reporters after the vote, Government House leader Pablo Rodriguez brushed away suggestions that his government would make every vote in the House a matter of confidence as a tactic going forward.
"That's absolutely ridiculous," Rodriguez said. "This is a serious matter. What they proposed here is extremely serious. They go over the limits. It's irresponsible. It was about paralyzing the government in the middle of pandemic when we need to be there working for Canadians, working for our seniors, working for our families, helping those who have lost their jobs."
WATCH : Rodriguez says the Liberal government didn't give concessions:
Asked by reporters if the NDP had an obligation to support the Conservative motion, NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said, "There's many ways to skin a cat, my friends."
Conservative House leader Gérard Deltell said the ethical questions surrounding the government require a special committee with a clear mandate. He said it's the "duty" of opposition parties to hold the government to account.
"This is what the issue is all about with this motion, and what we see right now is a prime minister who will do whatever it takes to call an election," he said.
"The only Canadian who would like to have an election today is the prime minister. The only Canadian who would like to freeze the government for a few months is the prime minister by calling an election."
The Conservatives amended the original motion to state that voting to launch the committee should not be considered grounds to order an election.
It also dropped the "anti-corruption committee" label it initially proposed.
WATCH: Green Party leader urges politicians to work together after confidence vote:
Bloc Québécois House leader Alain Therrien said the WE Charity issue is so complex that it requires a special committee to get answers.
He said the Liberals'"scorched-earth" approach to politics is the product of a "club of cronyism" and renders compromise impossible.
He also criticized the NDP, suggesting the party's MPs have obediently followed Liberal demands.
"The NDP have acted in the last little while a little like the Liberals' lap dog," he said.
'Unwelcome drama': Paul
Green Party Leader Annamie Paul issued a statement urging the parties to cool their jets, calling the brinkmanship "unwelcome drama."
"The Liberal and Conservative parties' high-stakes, high-tech game of chicken can have no winner," she said.
"They should leave such games outside of Parliament, and focus on the urgent needs of people in Canada. I ask members of Parliament to dial down the rhetoric, which is not in keeping with the seriousness of this unprecedented moment, so that we can get back to working on the critical matters at hand."
With files from The Canadian Press and the CBCs' Peter Zimonjic
This brawl in the Commons may end in a draw — but there will be others
It may look chaotic, but this is how a minority Parliament is supposed to work
That sound you hear emanating from Ottawa — a dull rumble of umbrage and purported principles — is the sound of your democracy at work.
Maybe it's not the sound of your democracy working beautifully — NDP leader Jagmeet Singh used the word "farce"— but your democracy is still basically working.
Minority parliaments such as the one we have now — where no one party has a majority of seats in the House of Commons — always seem very good in theory. In a minority situation (in theory), the government of the day can't run roughshod over the opposition, parties have to work together to find compromises and Parliament is in a much stronger position to hold the government to account. The end result is (hopefully) a better form of governance and democracy.
And sometimes a minority Parliament can live up to that promise. But it can also be a series of conflicts — a House of Commons held together less by the necessity and righteousness of compromise and more by loud threats of an election.
"The Liberals are threatening an election in the middle of a pandemic to avoid any further scrutiny," Conservative leader Erin O'Toole said this morning.
"The opposition is going to have to decide whether they want to make this minority Parliament work, or whether they have lost confidence in the government," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said a couple hours later at his own news conference.
Proposals, counter-proposals
The current dispute goes back to the summer and the opposition's desire to pursue the WE affair.
When Parliament resumed in September, the opposition parties attempted to revive their demands for disclosure. The Liberals balked. With two committees tied up by Liberal filibusters, the Conservatives moved the fight to the House with a request that MPs create a special "anti-corruption committee" that would be empowered to pursue the government on several fronts. The Liberals renewed their objections — and countered with a proposal for a special committee to study all of the government's pandemic-related spending.
There are at least three points of dispute here.
The Trudeau government argues that the opposition parties have gone too far in demanding that the Speaker's Spotlight, a private agency, turn over information about public engagements for which the prime minister's mother and brother have been paid over the past 12 years. The NDP offered to drop that demand but it remains part of the Conservatives' proposal.
The opposition parties say government officials went too far in redacting information from the documents that were provided to the finance committee. The Liberals would like the committee to hear from the officials who did the redaction before MPs on the committee decide whether their parliamentary privilege has been breached. The Conservatives argue the officials can be heard from later.
But the most hotly contested aspect of this is the meaning of what the Conservatives are proposing.
The Liberals seem to believe that the implication of the Conservative motion is that the government is corrupt. They insist that passing the motion would be an expression of non-confidence by the House that must trigger an election.
A non-confidence game
The Conservatives responded by amending their motion to rename the committee: instead of calling for an "anti-corruption committee," they now propose to create a "special committee on allegations of misuse of public funds by the government." The Conservatives also added a clause to their motion to insist that "the establishment of the committee shall not, in the opinion of the House, constitute legitimate grounds for calling a general election."
That proviso has no statutory power. It would not stop the government from declaring the vote a matter of confidence, or prevent the prime minister from asking the governor general to call a new election (and, a year after the last election, the governor general would be expected to grant such a request). But the point is moot: the Liberals were not persuaded that the amendments changed the implication.
The more cynical view would be that the Liberals have something to hide and are going to great lengths to conceal it. The slightly less cynical view would be that the Liberals would rather not face an open-ended inquiry into whatever can be alleged about them — the sort of thing that would, regardless of anyone's innocence or guilt, produce any number of news reports about the mere possibility of corruption.
Canadian democracy depends, in part, on the opposition holding the government to account — and the will of Parliament is ultimately paramount. But it doesn't necessarily follow that the government has to happily agree to whatever the opposition proposes. The Conservatives are pursuing the government with a certain zeal and the Liberals are pushing back with the leverage available to them.
Which way will the NDP jump?
The NDP could step into the breach — they might not want to go to an election right now and they might also see a chance to split the difference between the Conservative and Liberal proposals, allowing them to walk away looking both reasonable and relevant.
All of this might be regarded as the normal push-and-pull of a minority Parliament. At worst, it might be further evidence that Canada's major political parties are fundamentally incapable of working together except in the most pitched and acrimonious of circumstances.
But you also don't need to look very far right now to realize that a functioning democracy is a rather precious thing — and that the long-term threats posed by dysfunction and cynicism are not purely hypothetical. That is something that might lurk in the minds of participants and observers alike.
The most likely scenario remains a compromise that avoids an election. If that happens, of course, another flashpoint will emerge in the Commons a week or a month from now, another occasion for more manoeuvring. The example of our last era of minority Parliament (2004 to 2011) suggests that there will be (at least) another half-dozen opportunities to worry about the possibility of an election before the next election actually occurs.
A certain amount of brinkmanship is inevitable — even healthy. As long as everyone understands that this is not just fun and games.
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Give it a rest with your anti-Trump agenda, it's extremely old hat now.
Let the real news about your golden boy be front and centre.
O'Toole says a lot of things to different people
Case in point - Energy East
In Quebec O'Toole says it is off the table
In Alberta O'Toole says it is a given and a go
Which O'Toole do we believe?
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Parliamentary showdown looms as Conservatives, Liberals dig in heels over anti-corruption committee
O'Toole says special probe should not trigger election as government declares it a confidence motion
· CBC News· Posted: Oct 20, 2020 8:09 AM ET
Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole is pressing for the creation of a new special committee to scrutinize the government's potential misuse of tax dollars and ethical lapses in its response to COVID-19. (Tijana Martin/Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
The prospect of a snap election hangs in the balance as the Liberal government and the opposition Conservatives spar over a proposal to create a parliamentary committee to probe the Liberal government's pandemic response spending and possible ethical lapses.
Today, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that Canadians will go to the polls if his government loses a confidence vote on the Conservative motion.
"We have rolled out unprecedented measures to support Canadians, to support small businesses, to support families, to support communities right across the country, and we feel that parliamentarians should in this exceptional time have an ability to look very carefully at all that spending. And that's why we're proposing this special committee," Trudeau told a news conference in Ottawa.
"But it will be up to parliamentarians and the opposition to decide whether they want to make this minority Parliament work, or whether they've lost confidence in this government's ability to manage this pandemic and continue to govern this country during this crisis."
The government had proposed striking a special committee with a narrower mandate to review federal COVID-19 program spending.
Earlier today, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole argued that creating a special committee to probe possible misuse of tax dollars during the coronavirus pandemic would not constitute legitimate grounds for triggering a general election.
During a news conference in Ottawa, O'Toole said his party's push to strike a so-called "anti-corruption" committee to scrutinize government spending, lobbying and the delivery of federal aid programs is simply about holding the government to account on possible misspending and ethical lapses.
The Liberal government says the motion to create the parliamentary committee will be considered a confidence vote — meaning it could lead to a snap federal election.
O'Toole said the Conservative motion being debated today has been amended to include language specifying that creating the committee should not be deemed grounds to order an election.
He said he's also open to changing the name of the committee if that would bring other opposition parties on board.
"Canadians expect the truth. They deserve accountability. That's what this committee will do," he said, adding that the Liberals have dodged accountability by withholding documents, proroguing Parliament and shedding a key minister embroiled in the WE Charity controversy.
Trudeau says election not in Canadians' best interest
In an interview with Toronto radio station RED FM Tuesday, Trudeau accused the Conservatives of playing political games as the government tries to focus on supporting Canadians through the coronavirus pandemic.
"We've said if they think we're so corrupt, then maybe they don't have confidence in the government, and I think that's something very important. If they want to make criticisms, they have to be willing to back it up in the House," he said.
Trudeau said he does not want an election and that holding one now would not be in the best interests of Canadians.
"But if the Conservatives are saying that this government is completely corrupt, then I think they have to face the consequences of that," he said.
Liberal House leader Pablo Rodriguez called the Conservative motion "totally irresponsible" and confirmed the government will deem it a confidence motion.
He said the committee will detract from the government's efforts to help Canadians through the health and financial crises.
"Their motion is nothing more than a dangerous political plan to paralyze the government, and they're doing this at a time when we should all be focusing on keeping Canadians safe and healthy during the pandemic," he said.
The Conservative motion would give the new committee a mandate to examine the Canada student service grant and the ties between WE Charity — which had been selected to administer the program — and members of the Liberal government and their family members.
It also would be tasked to examine other issues related to the government's COVID-19 response.
The Conservatives say the committee would have the power to call Trudeau as a witness, as well as Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland and other cabinet ministers.
Conservative House leader Gerard Deltell called the Liberals' effort to present the Tory motion as a matter of confidence "ridiculous."
"That you are even entertaining such speculation demonstrates to me — as it would to all Canadians — the desperate ends to which the Liberal government will go to further its coverup of a very troubling scandal which reeks of corruption," Deltell wrote in a letter to Rodriguez yesterday. A copy of the letter was obtained by The Canadian Press.
NDP to Liberals: 'Calm down'
Weeks ago, the NDP pitched a special committee that would focus exclusively on pandemic-related spending — an idea the Tories' anti-corruption probe would amplify.
The Liberals countered with their own proposal for a COVID-19 committee, detailing their pitch Monday in a letter to the House leaders of the other parties.
They're proposing one that focuses on pandemic-related spending, with six Liberal MPs and six members of the opposition parties. The Tories' version would have 15 MPs, with the opposition holding the majority.
The Liberals' approach is too broad, Deltell said.
"All Mr. O'Toole's motion would do is to establish a committee with a focused mandate to review the most troubling reports related to your government's pandemic response measures," he wrote in his reply to Rodriguez.
"This would allow the 24 standing committees of the House to focus on their usual mandates, and how they intersect with the COVID-19 pandemic, while ensuring Parliament discharges its primary purpose: to hold the government to account."
NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said he was concerned the Liberals would stymie the work of a new committee much as they have done with existing ones. (CBC)
NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said earlier Monday he feared the Liberals would stymie the work of a new committee, much as they have done with existing ones by filibustering proceedings to avert votes.
He suggested, however, that to toss the country into an election over it would be folly.
In any confidence vote, the votes of NDP and Bloc Québécois MPs would be critical in deciding whether the minority Liberal government fell.
"Our message to the Liberals is, calm down, we have work to do," Angus said. "Work with us."
Documents dropped Monday
More light was shed Monday on the interactions between WE Charity and the government with the release of dozens of pages of documents previously demanded by the finance committee. The documents include details of fees paid to, and expenses covered for, members of the Trudeau family who participated in WE events.
The charity said previously that Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, the prime minister's wife, had been paid a $1,500 speaking fee for one appearance. The documents released Monday also disclosed that the charity covered $23,940.76 in expenses for eight appearances between 2012 and 2020.
The Commons' ethics committee also has demanded to know how much money Trudeau and his family received in speakers' fees over the last several years. Trudeau released details of his own fees Monday — amounting to about $1.3 million — which he disclosed when he ran for leadership of the party in 2013.
But the Liberals said his family's records were off limits.
With files from Stephanie Levitz of The Canadian Press
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Clinton's pal Franky Boy and Bush's buddy Harper proved it to everyone while I was running against all the political parties in the election of the 38th Parliament, haper lost that round and the lawyer who grew up just down the road from me was appointed to be our US ambassador after the election just like I predicted he would be. Now that his fellow political lawyer whom I have always called Rotten Ralphy has lost his seat on the Hill he has been appointed to be our High Commissioner to "Not So Merry' ol England and nobody cares because apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?
POLITICAL DOGMA
Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier
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To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.
In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.
Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."
Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."
"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM,
Dear REMOVED,
I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).
I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .
Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.
So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.
All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
No other leader of any of the parties has mentioned election half as many times as Trudeau in speeches. Sheesh.
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NDP won't give Trudeau 'excuse' for election, Singh says ahead of confidence vote in Commons
MPs to vote on Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending
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Maybe time to rethink your standards.
Cooperating with another person
does not mean
you are *under their control.*
What kind of world do blue fans live in?
The NDP has zero chance of forming gov't in the next ten years. This is the closest they have come to being able to get some of their agenda actually done.
Maybe you should actually take the time to find out, because your guesses are woefully off the mark.
what's take-it-all-Trudeau's plan for Canada? Fire a few more strong women? Apply a little more visage noir? Promise a few more times to not prorogue Parliament? Maybe a few dozen more scandals?
I bet he will have a budget! and he probably won't promise that it will balance itself.
The only fact in there was that yes, at one point he was the Min. of Veteran's Affairs. But the CPC is a large tent party with a broad range of views and ideas. I've seen enough of both him and Harper to say they are very different people. And the rest of your argument is fundamentally flawed - making references to previous government's under different leaders doesn't mean anything. It would be as ridiculous as if I said Trudeau's platform was exactly the same as Paul Martins.
What does the length of time previous government were in power have to do with it? And Trudeau has been in power for already 50% of the time Harper was in. Name a "Harper problem" we have today that Trudeau can be excused for not "solving." And then tell me how any of this has anything to do with informing you of what kind of leader Erin O'Toole would be, because you're been going off your original topic for some reason.
Reply to @Shelley King Smith: I didn't vote for Chretien, in fact I didn't vote that election. Conservative supporters assume a lot of things right Shelly?
ABC. More than ever now. ABC.
There is one way the liberals can guarantee themselves a majority, drop Trudeau. He's the only reason they lost a million votes and were dropped to minority status. Unfortunately, too many of the hardcore supporters drank too much of the kool-aid to realize that.
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- About the List of Interested Suppliers
- What are the potential benefits of the LIS for businesses?
- What are the steps to join a List of Interested Suppliers?
- How do I update my contact information for a LIS?
- How do I remove my business name and contact information from a LIS?
- What if I find incorrect or inappropriate information that is not connected to me on the LIS?
About the List of Interested Suppliers
The List of Interested Suppliers (LIS) is an online service that allows businesses to optionally join and publicly signal their interest in an active Government of Canada tender notice. The LIS allows businesses to add their company name and contact information to a publicly available list of parties who have expressed an interest in a particular tender published on Buyandsell.gc.ca.
The LIS is only available on Buyandsell.gc.ca and only reflects the interest of suppliers who have viewed tenders on this site. It does not capture any expressed interest by suppliers who may have viewed Government of Canada tender as redistributed information by a third-party service provider (such as MERX, biddingo). The LIS does not form part of the official tender solicitation package, and therefore is not available as part of the open tender data file and will be unpublished once a tender has been cancelled or awarded or has expired. Once the tender closing date has passed, the LIS is closed but will still remain visible for reference. No new contacts can be added to or removed from the LIS for an expired tender notice. The LIS will be unpublished when the tender notice is archived (i.e. the tenders that are cancelled and awarded).
Prospective bidders must be aware that the List of Interested Suppliers for a specific tender notice does not replace or affect the tendering procedures in place for the procurement. Businesses are still required to respond to bid solicitations and to compete based on established bid criteria.
For more information about the List of Interested Suppliers Terms of Use, please visit the About Tenders web page.
Use a web feed to receive updates
Web feeds are available to receive updates when a business adds their name to a List of Interested Suppliers (LIS) for an active Government of Canada tender notice.
To subscribe to a LIS web feed, go to an active tender notice of interest and click the link to the LIS. Once you are on the LIS page, click on the RSS feed icon 
or the Atom feed icon 
to create a subscription via a Web feed.
Using a feed reader, you will be notified by email when the LIS has been updated with businesses who have added their name to the list. If you have never used a feed reader to receive email notifications, learn how on our Follow Opportunities web page.
Use the page activity counter to gauge interest
The page activity counter on all LIS pages captures the page view count of visitors viewing the LIS for an active tender notice. The page activity counter on the tender notice and the associated LIS, will help you to assess the market interest in an active tender notice.
What are the potential benefits of the LIS for businesses?
Joining a List of Interested Suppliers for active Government of Canada tenders may increase:
- Visibility: Joining the list is one way to be visible to other companies, prime contractors, or small and medium enterprises (SMEs) for partnering opportunities.
- Networking opportunities: Businesses can scan for potential partners and contact them directly.
- Interaction with new and niche markets: Large primes can identify potential SMEs partners suited to projects in a new or niche market.
Learn more about how to gather business intelligence using other information on Buyandsell.gc.ca
Visit the web page How do I find partners or understand my competition?
What are the steps to join a List of Interested Suppliers?
The List of Interested Suppliers is available for every active tender notice and gives any business the opportunity to self identify its interest in a specific tender notice.
Follow these steps to add your name to the List of Interested Suppliers
- Go to a tender notice of interest, and click on the List of Interest Suppliers on the top right corner of the tender notice (the Buyandsell.gc.ca page, not the PDF tender notice document attachment).
- The next page you see is the LIS for that specific tender notice. On this page, again in the top right corner, you can click a link to access the online form to enter your business name and contact information.
- Provide the following mandatory contact information in the form:
- Name
- Title
- Company Name
- Email (this will be verified as active)
- Add the following voluntary contact information:
- Phone number
- Twitter handle
- Facebook profile
- Linkedin address
- Submit the completed online form.
- A confirmation email will be sent immediately to your email address asking you to confirm your interest in joining the LIS. Note:You must conserve this confirmation email as it contains information that will allow you to remove your business contact information from an active LIS at a later date.
How do I update my contact information for a LIS?
If you need to update your contact information on the LIS for a specific active tender, you must remove your existing record and use the online submission form to create a new record with the new information. When you submitted the online form to join the LIS, you received an email with a link to verify your email and publish your identity on the LIS for a specific tender as well as a link to remove your name from the LIS. Please use the link provided in this email.
You may only update contact information for a LIS while the tender notice is “active”. Once the tender closing date has passed, the LIS is closed but will still remain visible for reference. No new contacts can be added to or removed from the LIS for an expired tender notice. The LIS will be unpublished when the tender notice is archived (i.e. the tender is cancelled or awarded).
If you no longer have the original confirmation email, please contact the OSME-SE national InfoLine at 1-800-811-1148. The line is staffed Monday to Friday from 07:30 to 17:00 Eastern Standard/Daylight time.
How do I remove my business name and contact information from a LIS?
When you submitted the online form to join the LIS, you received an email with a link to verify your email and publish your identity on the LIS for a specific tender as well as a link to remove your name from the LIS. Please use the link provided in this email.
You may only remove your name from an LIS while the tender notice is “active”. Once the tender notice is “expired”, “cancelled” or “awarded”, you may no longer remove your name from the LIS. The LIS associated to an expired notice is available for viewing only (no new contacts can be added to the LIS for an expired notice). The LIS associated to a “cancelled” or “awarded” tender notice is unpublished from Buyandsell.gc.ca.
If you no longer have the original confirmation email, please contact the OSME-SE national InfoLine at 1-800-811-1148. The line is staffed Monday to Friday from 07:30 to 17:00 Eastern Standard/Daylight time.
What if I find incorrect or inappropriate information that is not connected to me on the LIS?
If you find incorrect or inappropriate information on the LIS, please use the Buyandsell.gc.ca Contact Us web form and provide the URL of the LIS. You may also contact the OSME-SE national InfoLine at 1-800-811-1148. The line is staffed Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00 Eastern Standard/Daylight time.
Activity
The following statistics are only for the English page and are provided in close to real time. To calculate the total activity for a tender notice, you will need to add the English and French statistics.
- Page views
(English page) - 193489
- Unique page views
(English page) - 131377
Support for smaller businesses
If you have questions specific to this procurement, please contact the Contracting Authority identified in the “Contact information” section of this tender notice.
If you need help understanding the federal procurement process or registering as a supplier, contact the Office of Small and Medium Enterprises. We have a network of offices across Canada.
Access and terms of use
Government of Canada (GC) tender notices and awards, solicitation documents and tender attachments are available free of charge and without registration on Buyandsell.gc.ca/tenders, the authoritative location for GC tenders.
You may have received this tender notice or award through a third-party distributor. The Government of Canada is not responsible for any tender notices and/or related documents and attachments not accessed directly through Buyandsell.gc.ca/tenders.
This Government of Canada tender notice or tender award carries an Open Government Licence - Canada that governs its use. Related solicitation documents and/or tender attachments are copyright protected. Please refer to the section about Commercial Reproduction in the Buyandsell.gc.ca Terms and Conditions for more information.
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
Is this leaked info really Trudeau’s crazy COVID plan for 2021? You decide …
Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17
Tags: COVID-19 restrictions, LPC Strategic Committee Leak
Categories: POLITICSRECENT POSTS
Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)
Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:
Dear REMOVED,
I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).
I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief. This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided
to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .
Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.
So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.
All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
Why Parliament could be on the brink of a snap election — again
Are the Liberals playing a game of chicken with the opposition?
"This is pure partisan politics," Liberal House leader Pablo Rodriguez said on Friday, referring to a Conservative motion that would have the House of Commons establish an "anti-corruption committee."
It shouldn't surprise Rodriguez — an MP with more than a decade of experience in Ottawa — to find partisan politics going on around him. As gambling is to a casino, partisanship is to Parliament — it's the reason people are there.
And as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recently observed (speaking of his inclination to continue with byelections in Toronto), Canadians need to know that their democratic institutions are durable and flexible enough to continue functioning even through a public health emergency.
Leader of the Government in the House of Commons Pablo Rodriguez has accused opposition parties of engaging in "pure partisan politics"— as if there were any other kind in the House of Commons. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)
So the operative question isn't who is doing politics here. It's who will end up doing the politics better — or at least less badly. And in this case, the politics comes with the tantalizing possibility of a snap election.
Right now, Liberal MPs are filibustering two House committees over disputes about how to proceed with inquiries into the government's affairs. As a result, the Conservatives now might ask the House on Tuesday to establish the aforementioned "anti-corruption committee."
This committee would pursue several questions the Conservatives have about the government's handling of pandemic-related programs, including the WE Charity affair and allegations that the husband of Trudeau's chief of staff lobbied the government about one program. It also would demand disclosure of any internal government correspondence about the government's decision to prorogue Parliament.
One of the other demands for documents in the Conservative motion — covering 12 years of records from the private agency that handled public speaking appearances by Trudeau, his wife, mother and brother — mirrors an order that was passed by a House committee this summer.
But that previous order expired when Trudeau had Parliament prorogued. There's also an active dispute over whether government officials went too far in redacting information from some documents that have been turned over already.
If the Liberals had a majority in the House, the new Conservative motion would be doomed. They don't, of course — and if the Conservatives are joined by the Bloc Quebecois and NDP in voting in favour, the motion will pass and the creatively named committee will be established.
Prorogation payback
Previous hearings on the ill-fated Canada Student Service Grant did not find any actual corruption before things came to a sudden halt with prorogation in August. The Liberals could claim now that the opposition parties are merely trying to embark on a grand fishing expedition. Even if no outright corruption is ever uncovered, the anti-corruption committee could sustain questions and news stories about the possibility of corruption for weeks.
Conservatives could reasonably reply to the Liberals' claim by pointing out that turnabout is fair play. There was no particular need for Trudeau to prorogue Parliament for a month. He could have allowed House committees to continue meeting while his government prepared a throne speech.
If the prime minister was within his rights to clear the public agenda ahead of that reset, the opposition is within its rights to be even louder in jamming things up again now.
The Liberals are countering the Conservative motion with their own proposal to establish a special committee that would look at all pandemic-related spending by the government — which is similar to an idea already floated by the NDP.
Such a committee could end up looking into some of the same things the Conservatives want to examine (though it's not clear how the Liberals would deal with outstanding demands for document disclosure) but it would take a broader view. Presumably, it also wouldn't be called the "anti-corruption committee."
A confidence game
Rodriguez notably declined to answer directly when he was asked Friday whether the Liberals would treat the Conservative motion as a matter of confidence — that is, whether the prime minister would ask the governor general to call an election if the motion passes.
That leaves open the possibility the government will try to use the possibility of an election as leverage in negotiations between now and Tuesday. (The government also could rearrange the House schedule to push the Conservative motion to a later date.)
"We are entirely focused on the second wave of COVID-19," Trudeau said last Monday when he was asked about the disputes at the House ethics and finance committees. "The Conservatives continue to want to focus on WE Charity. So be it."
It should be possible for politicians to focus on more than one thing at a time, of course. But the Liberals might also believe history shows that voters are willing to look past controversies, purported scandals and parliamentary battles if it seems like the government is properly focused on the major economic and social concerns of the day.
Stephen Harper paid a political price for proroguing Parliament in 2008. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)
For five years, the Liberals (and NDP) used the advantages afforded by minority parliaments to pursue their concerns about Stephen Harper's government. But it wasn't until 2015 — after the Liberals had found a popular leader and assembled a deep and ambitious platform — that voters were ready to change governments.
On the other hand, Harper's approach to Parliament and governing probably contributed ultimately to the Conservatives ending up back in opposition. The Liberal decision to prorogue Parliament in August was not unlike the Harper approach.
Erin O'Toole's Conservatives eventually will have to explain what they would do if they were in government. Depending on how things go on Tuesday, they might have to provide a full explanation very soon.
But unless someone really wants an election this fall, there probably won't be one.
Instead, there could be some kind of parliamentary inquiry into the government's economic and fiscal response to the pandemic. And if the Liberals agree to that, it will be because the opposition compelled them. That, at least, is the sort of thing that a minority parliament is supposed to accomplish.
Listen: CBC Radio's The House on Parliament and the WE Charity scandal
