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Methinks its high time folks thank Dr. Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and at great expense before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/nb-power-finances-suffered-657m-hit-in.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-earning-report-covid-19-1.5654175
· CBC News· Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:59 PM AT
NB Power's loss of $16 million in its latest fiscal year is the fifth year in a row the utility has seen its earnings fall below expectations. (CBC)
NB Power is reporting it lost $16 million in its latest fiscal year, a victim of the COVID-19 economic meltdown in March that ravaged its finances in a matter of days.
The utility had told the province to expect a $49.7-million profit for the fiscal year ending on March 31 — a figure New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves used in his March 10 budget — but 21 days later, $65.7 million had evaporated and NB Power's accounts suddenly tumbled into the red.
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020, largely as a result of the pandemic, that drove this reduction," said new NB Power president Keith Cronkhite in a statement in the utility's annual report released Friday.
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended.
Finance Minister Ernie Steeves announced on March 10 the province was headed for a $97.7-million budget surplus for the fiscal year ended March 31, but that depended on NB Power turning a $49.7-million profit. The utility's $16-million loss will show up when Steeves issues final financial statements later this summer. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
NB Power chair Ed Barrett was philosophical about the unfortunate turn of events in his own statement.
"It is remarkable that what we may remember most about 2019/20 are the events that surfaced just as NB Power's fiscal year was drawing to a close."
It's the fifth year in a row NB Power has failed to meet its earnings target although the problem this time was financial, not operational.
The money is managed by Vestcor, the Fredericton investment entity that handles New Brunswick government employee pension funds, and a steep collapse in global financial markets that began in late February was behind most of NB Power's losses, according to the account in its annual report.
NB Power's loss was caused by a March meltdown in financial markets, not operational problems, as its nuclear decommissioning investments were hammered. (Richard Drew/The Associated Press)
"The instability of the financial markets largely as a result of the global COVID-19 pandemic, led to a significant decrease in the gains on the investments year-over-year and was the primary driver of this unfavourable variance."
No one from the utility was made available to speak about the financial results Friday, but the loss will have a significant impact on New Brunswick's own fiscal year financial results which will be reported later this summer.
The province had projected a $97.7-million budget surplus for the year ended March 31, 2020, but the setback at NB Power will spill onto its books and erase two thirds of that.
A budget surplus the province had been projecting for 2021 has already been downgraded to a $343-million deficit.
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David Amos
Methinks everybody knows why KPMG and I are not surprised N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended."
Methinks Higgy et al forgot to inform folks that one of the last things Gaëtan Thomas did was write a letter to the EUB in order to beg them not to come to a decision about NB Power's second bid for Not So Smart Meters anytime soon Now you know why N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks its high time that folks thank my friend Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and spending a lot of his own money for nearly 3 years appearing before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Right now Emera is asking for TOU rates in Nova Scotia.
David Amos
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Yes, in several publications.
Fred Dee
how many employees were PAID to stay home and not work?? How many are still getting this FULL pay with benefits for staying home and doing nothing!!???
Here is a way that $$ should have been saved!!
David Amos
Lou Bell
Love these people stating " Tesla stocks are up " or " Gold is up " ! Did THEY put all their money in either ? Quit lookin' back at your MISSED OPPORTUNITIES and intimating it's only others that missed them !
David Amos
Ben Haroldson
I'll bet the executive bonuses didn't take a hit, in fact they were probably topped up by the feds.
David Amos
Corrie Weatherfield
"LOSS" only occurs in an investment account when you sell at a lower price than the price at which you bought . . . how does this show up as a "loss" ? If a $700 million investment account waiting to be used some years in the future goes down in market value, what sort of accountant records that as a loss in the current year? Let us not expect an answer . . . the sort of accountants that manage the finances of NBPower and of the govt have proven themselves many times to be better with words than with numbers.
Ben Haroldson
Terry Tibbs
Buckle up buttercups, we have been publicly given "the BIG excuse", for a total and thorough hosing.
David Amos
janice small
Wheres Kevin Cormier when you need him ????
Fred Brewer
Carroll Cameron
This shortfall is rather easy to overcome for now and the future, and quell the resident whiners n detractors of the power commision that live on CBC forums, and that is remove the EUB and leave the power commision alone. Allow it to turn a profit by charging the people of NB what the real cost of power is. Then they'll have the money to make a real dent in their accumulated debt as the years go by.
Sounds like a good plan to get the comm. into the black. It should satisfy everyone that craves the comm turning a profit and it.....Oh Wait!
David Peters
Fred Brewer
NB Power's investment losses began in February. Well, if they had invested in Tesla on Jan 31, they would have more than doubled their money. The future is in electric vehicles and renewable energy but none are so blind as those who do not want to see.
David Peters
Bill Henry
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020“ wait, what? So it is a paper loss on an investment that is not expected to be used until years from now?
eddy watts
If people thought being shut-down for as long as NB has been, (trying to keep it's death by covid below .001).........that any "opening" would be painless, you are in for a huge shock; and don't expect the feds to throw $$$ at the province, as there are others, who in many cases have been open longer, needing help.
David Amos
Don Smith
Sounds more like we have been put on notice for a rate hike or worse SMART METERS!
David Amos
Terry Tibbs
We have a situation where most folks are sitting home entertaining themselves, so somehow, we are to believe usage is down, and it's not like one single residential user gets any special deals. Yet losing money is supposedly what happened? Right.
David Amos
Norman Albert Snr
Guess that would have something to do with the call I got today not allowing incentive grants for upgrade during a Pandemic
David Amos
Lou Bell
So really , the loss should already be mostly made up by now if one understands the markets and where they stand today . I have a suspicion there's more to this than just those investments !
James Vander
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-point-lepreau-nuclear-plant-running-like-newborn-1.5652829
· CBC· Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:00 AM AT
The Point Lepreau nuclear generating station is a 705 mega watt Candu-6 reactor. It has been a fixture at the edge of the Bay of Fundy for nearly four decades. (Submitted/NB Power)
New Brunswick's 37-year-old nuclear plant at Point Lepreau quietly completed a full year of uninterrupted power generation earlier this week, the first since its pre-teen years in the early 1990s.
It's a significant development that, if sustainable, holds the potential to alter the financial fortunes of NB Power.
"This accomplishment, especially through the COVID-19 pandemic, is something the station is proud of," the utility said in a statement about the milestone.
The nuclear plant was shut down for a week last summer for an unexpected repair but since coming back online on July 15, 2019, it has run trouble free.
Former premier Richard Hatfield loved large modern economic development projects and pushed for the adoption of nuclear power in New Brunswick. After years of construction and controversy, Lepreau went into commercial production in 1983. (CBC NEWS)
Over the last year, Lepreau has generated close to 5.8 terawatt hours of electricity for distribution, about $400 million worth depending on market prices, and close to 100 per cent of its maximum capacity.
NB Power believes it is the longest the plant has run without shutting down since at least 1994, and perhaps ever, since earlier records are not easily accessed.
The flawless year of operation for Lepreau follows the investment of several hundred million dollars in the plant to solve serious performance problems that emerged following its $2.4 billion refurbishment that ended in 2012.
It produced only 90 per cent of the electricity expected of it during the first seven and a half years after refurbishment due to a number of malfunctions in non nuclear equipment that had not been upgraded during the effort to replace nuclear components.
Lepreau began what was supposed to be an 18-month, $1.4 billion refurbishment of its nuclear components in 2008. The renovation finished three years late and $1 billion over budget, and the plant performed below expectations until recently. (Photo submitted)
Multiple unscheduled shutdowns caused by the malfunctions between 2012 and last July cost NB Power more than $200 million in lost electrical production and pushed the cost of capital repairs and upgrades to improve reliability at Lepreau to more than $500 million.
That has been weighing down NB Power's bottom line and undermining plans to pay down debt.
NB Power has been unable to pay down its multi-billion dollar debt as planned since 2013 in part because of production problems and maintenance costs at the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station. (Submitted/NB Power)
It has and NB Power now expects Lepreau to fuel an increase in its profitability.
"If we think about what have been the primary drivers that have led to subpar (financial) performance the last number of years, we can point to Point Lepreau's performance coming out of the refurbishment," NB Power's chief financial officer, Darren Murphy, said at hearings in February during Lepreau's current mistake-free run.
"Unfortunately, it did not perform as we would have liked. However … we have been able to substantially improve the performance of Point Lepreau, therefore, reducing the risk that Lepreau will be the (cause) of subpar performance."
Originally, Lepreau was scheduled to be taken offline in April for annual maintenance but COVID-19 restrictions in the province derailed those plans until September. Instead it has kept running and setting production records.
David Amos
Methinks folks should consider how much power we need N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
Let's not forget that running for extended periods and deferring maintenance to do so is part of what got that plant into trouble in the 1st place. It is too valuable an asset to suffer such abuse. Deferral of a necessary maintenance shutdown -- even if that deferral was made necessary by the pandemic -- is a poor excuse for a celebration.
David Amos
Morgan Brown
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Point Lepreau is not suffering abuse; the planned maintenance shutdown in April was the preferred target for the outage (i.e., Spring lower demand period). Delaying the outage until the Fall (another lower-demand period) is well within the safe capability of the unit, but utilities prefer to perform maintenance when scheduled (It's a huge effort to plan all the activities and coordinate the crews, contractors and supplies). Bruce-1 (also a CANDU, in Ont) just completed a 694-day continuous run, and Darlington-1 (also an Ont CANDU) passed the 903-day mark (still going), setting a new North American record for a continuous run (passing 894 days set in 1994).
Fred Brewer
Gilles Villeneuve
We need to invest heavily in nuclear power to reduce carbon emissions and prevent climate change. Clean, emission free electricity from nuclear fired power plants is the future for our planet and is the only viable energy source that can take over from oil when it runs out.
Morgan Brown
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks its high time folks thank Dr. Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and at great expense before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/nb-power-finances-suffered-657m-hit-in.html
#nbpoli#cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-earning-report-covid-19-1.5654175
NB Power finances suffered $65.7M hit in March from COVID-19
Utility missed earnings target for 5th straight year after markets tumbled days before its fiscal year ended
· CBC News· Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:59 PM AT
NB Power's loss of $16 million in its latest fiscal year is the fifth year in a row the utility has seen its earnings fall below expectations. (CBC)
NB Power is reporting it lost $16 million in its latest fiscal year, a victim of the COVID-19 economic meltdown in March that ravaged its finances in a matter of days.
The utility had told the province to expect a $49.7-million profit for the fiscal year ending on March 31 — a figure New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves used in his March 10 budget — but 21 days later, $65.7 million had evaporated and NB Power's accounts suddenly tumbled into the red.
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020, largely as a result of the pandemic, that drove this reduction," said new NB Power president Keith Cronkhite in a statement in the utility's annual report released Friday.
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended.
Finance Minister Ernie Steeves announced on March 10 the province was headed for a $97.7-million budget surplus for the fiscal year ended March 31, but that depended on NB Power turning a $49.7-million profit. The utility's $16-million loss will show up when Steeves issues final financial statements later this summer. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
NB Power chair Ed Barrett was philosophical about the unfortunate turn of events in his own statement.
"It is remarkable that what we may remember most about 2019/20 are the events that surfaced just as NB Power's fiscal year was drawing to a close."
It's the fifth year in a row NB Power has failed to meet its earnings target although the problem this time was financial, not operational.
NB Power has more than $700 million invested in funds to pay for the eventual decommissioning of the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station and management of spent nuclear fuel.
The money is managed by Vestcor, the Fredericton investment entity that handles New Brunswick government employee pension funds, and a steep collapse in global financial markets that began in late February was behind most of NB Power's losses, according to the account in its annual report.
NB Power's loss was caused by a March meltdown in financial markets, not operational problems, as its nuclear decommissioning investments were hammered. (Richard Drew/The Associated Press)
"The instability of the financial markets largely as a result of the global COVID-19 pandemic, led to a significant decrease in the gains on the investments year-over-year and was the primary driver of this unfavourable variance."
No one from the utility was made available to speak about the financial results Friday, but the loss will have a significant impact on New Brunswick's own fiscal year financial results which will be reported later this summer.
The province had projected a $97.7-million budget surplus for the year ended March 31, 2020, but the setback at NB Power will spill onto its books and erase two thirds of that.
A budget surplus the province had been projecting for 2021 has already been downgraded to a $343-million deficit.
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Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
Methinks everybody knows why KPMG and I are not surprised N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended."
Methinks Higgy et al forgot to inform folks that one of the last things Gaëtan Thomas did was write a letter to the EUB in order to beg them not to come to a decision about NB Power's second bid for Not So Smart Meters anytime soon Now you know why N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks its high time that folks thank my friend Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and spending a lot of his own money for nearly 3 years appearing before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: I may add, if you permit Mr. Amos, that if the people of NB do not smarten-up very fast we will lose NB Power to the Americans. The cards are all lined-up in that regard.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: Methinks Emera would love to buy NB Power just like they did with Nova Scotia Power years ago. If they so no doubt the rates would go through the roof N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Right now Emera is asking for TOU rates in Nova Scotia.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: They use Not So Smart Meters to accomplish that feat Methinks that the same meter that raises the bills even when folks are not using any power whatsoever N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Yes, in several publications.
Fred Dee
how many employees were PAID to stay home and not work?? How many are still getting this FULL pay with benefits for staying home and doing nothing!!???
Here is a way that $$ should have been saved!!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: Methinks that nonsense went on throughout GNB N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Love these people stating " Tesla stocks are up " or " Gold is up " ! Did THEY put all their money in either ? Quit lookin' back at your MISSED OPPORTUNITIES and intimating it's only others that missed them !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Late last year my son used some of his gold to buy a Tesla before the markets took a nosedive Does that count?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Lou Bell: As a matter of fact I did invest in Tesla but I bought it even earlier so my return is 6X. But I am not a professional investor like Vestcor. What do I know? Yet NB Power blames Vestcor for their losses.
Ben Haroldson
I'll bet the executive bonuses didn't take a hit, in fact they were probably topped up by the feds.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks the Feds take a wide berth of NB Power particularly after Harper sold our Nuke assets to SNC Lavelin then Trudeau got in hot water N'esy Pas?
Corrie Weatherfield
"LOSS" only occurs in an investment account when you sell at a lower price than the price at which you bought . . . how does this show up as a "loss" ? If a $700 million investment account waiting to be used some years in the future goes down in market value, what sort of accountant records that as a loss in the current year? Let us not expect an answer . . . the sort of accountants that manage the finances of NBPower and of the govt have proven themselves many times to be better with words than with numbers.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: And there is no way that can happen with a " crown " NPO.
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Methinks you should work that out with KPMG because we pay them to check NB Power's books N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Buckle up buttercups, we have been publicly given "the BIG excuse", for a total and thorough hosing.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Cardy has stocked up on butter tarts before there is a run on them N'esy Pas?
janice small
Wheres Kevin Cormier when you need him ????
Fred Brewer
Reply to @janice small: LOL
David Amos
Reply to @janice small: He is busy lugging Cardy's butter tarts to the backroom
Carroll Cameron
This shortfall is rather easy to overcome for now and the future, and quell the resident whiners n detractors of the power commision that live on CBC forums, and that is remove the EUB and leave the power commision alone. Allow it to turn a profit by charging the people of NB what the real cost of power is. Then they'll have the money to make a real dent in their accumulated debt as the years go by.
Sounds like a good plan to get the comm. into the black. It should satisfy everyone that craves the comm turning a profit and it.....Oh Wait!
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
How can we possibly know what the real cost of energy is, with the way this sector has been regulated and monopolized?
How can we possibly know what the real cost of energy is, with the way this sector has been regulated and monopolized?
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
Seems like you are begrudging citizens ability to voice their opinions on this vital file.
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret?
Seems like you are begrudging citizens ability to voice their opinions on this vital file.
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
While in principle, I like the idea of trustworthy folks being given free reign to properly operate NB power, the reality is that "trustworthy" does not exist within the confines of NB Power.
While in principle, I like the idea of trustworthy folks being given free reign to properly operate NB power, the reality is that "trustworthy" does not exist within the confines of NB Power.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David Peters: We have had this conversation before. EUB hearings are all public and you can register to speak at hearings if you wish. Currently due to covid not much is happening and they are or were pretty much shut down. Hearings are advertised in the newspaper and on their website.
David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Can you answer when and where the last eub meeting was, and provide a link to your source? Because, you didn't the last time I asked you this...
Can you answer when and where the last eub meeting was, and provide a link to your source? Because, you didn't the last time I asked you this...
David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
-sound of crickets-
There is no reasonable justification for manipulating sectors, like the way the eub does, imo. Would be much more beneficial for the vast majority of New Brunwickers if the marketplace set commodity prices and the consumer picked winners and losers in the business world.
-sound of crickets-
There is no reasonable justification for manipulating sectors, like the way the eub does, imo. Would be much more beneficial for the vast majority of New Brunwickers if the marketplace set commodity prices and the consumer picked winners and losers in the business world.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @David Peters:
You say I'm begrudging the citizens their voice, but, that wasnt my intention although I can see how one could come to that conclusion.
A few of the voices are always vindictive and the rest issue nothing positive or constructive. All I did was offer one way to eliminate the power comm thorn in their what ever part of their body they choose
Maybe I should've included that the power comm should be sold outright into private hands that absolutely need to make a profit. Wouldn't matter what citizens said then, about the cost of their electricity. The gov(we) would have no control over them either and, but, they wouldnt be a burden on the prov's bottom line either.
You say I'm begrudging the citizens their voice, but, that wasnt my intention although I can see how one could come to that conclusion.
A few of the voices are always vindictive and the rest issue nothing positive or constructive. All I did was offer one way to eliminate the power comm thorn in their what ever part of their body they choose
Maybe I should've included that the power comm should be sold outright into private hands that absolutely need to make a profit. Wouldn't matter what citizens said then, about the cost of their electricity. The gov(we) would have no control over them either and, but, they wouldnt be a burden on the prov's bottom line either.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
I disagree with you Terry. You're painting everyone with the same brush and that is just wrong.
Maybe you should've defined what group you are referring to b/c it sounds as if you're including the power comm middle and frontline workers.
I disagree with you Terry. You're painting everyone with the same brush and that is just wrong.
Maybe you should've defined what group you are referring to b/c it sounds as if you're including the power comm middle and frontline workers.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @David Peters:
I dont actually know David, but, I think we could start to get an idea if the EUB was removed and the other option I added to a reply to you below.
I dont actually know David, but, I think we could start to get an idea if the EUB was removed and the other option I added to a reply to you below.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
As of late NB Power has not missed one single opportunity to disappoint.
Anyone with investments took a financial hit, be it investments in stocks and bonds, or a simple bank balance. Thinking they are "special", this simple story is fair warning of upcoming rate increases by these "honest" people.
As of late NB Power has not missed one single opportunity to disappoint.
Anyone with investments took a financial hit, be it investments in stocks and bonds, or a simple bank balance. Thinking they are "special", this simple story is fair warning of upcoming rate increases by these "honest" people.
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
They say the answer to bad speech is more speech, but on this file there is virtually no public discussion...and on the transportation file, there is absolutely no discussion...no sound at all, like the void of space.
These sectors are keystones to NB's economy and they are way, way over-regulated and monopolized. There needs to be transparency and accountability, imo. Freer markets tend to roar back quickly...to most everyone's benefit.
They say the answer to bad speech is more speech, but on this file there is virtually no public discussion...and on the transportation file, there is absolutely no discussion...no sound at all, like the void of space.
These sectors are keystones to NB's economy and they are way, way over-regulated and monopolized. There needs to be transparency and accountability, imo. Freer markets tend to roar back quickly...to most everyone's benefit.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the upside of this is that the EUB will likely deny for the second time NB Power's bid to borrow over 100 million loonies for Not So Smart Meters N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David Peters: As I recall, commenting was closed before I could answer your question. It looks like Jan 13 of this year was likely the last hearing.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284
Fred Brewer
NB Power's investment losses began in February. Well, if they had invested in Tesla on Jan 31, they would have more than doubled their money. The future is in electric vehicles and renewable energy but none are so blind as those who do not want to see.
David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
This file gets uglier the closer you look at it.
This file gets uglier the closer you look at it.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Gold is up a SOLID 25% since November.
Gold is up a SOLID 25% since November.
David Peters
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
That's because Trudeau is printing $ out of thin air like crazy.
That's because Trudeau is printing $ out of thin air like crazy.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Peters:
It's a double gamble, gambling on the value of the Canadian dollar, and gambling our oil based economy collapses.
It's a double gamble, gambling on the value of the Canadian dollar, and gambling our oil based economy collapses.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I told ya it would correct?
Bill Henry
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020“ wait, what? So it is a paper loss on an investment that is not expected to be used until years from now?
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @Bill Henry: agree. not a "loss" unless they sell . . . says a lot about the method of "accounting"
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: They count it when the value goes up correct?
eddy watts
If people thought being shut-down for as long as NB has been, (trying to keep it's death by covid below .001).........that any "opening" would be painless, you are in for a huge shock; and don't expect the feds to throw $$$ at the province, as there are others, who in many cases have been open longer, needing help.
David Amos
Reply to @eddy watts: FYI
Ottawa provides N.B. with $200M to restart economy during COVID-19
There are still 3 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 3:38 PM AT
Ottawa provides N.B. with $200M to restart economy during COVID-19
There are still 3 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 3:38 PM AT
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a detailed accounting of that $200M?
Wouldn't it be nice to have a detailed accounting of that $200M?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Ask the Auditor General to do her job
Don Smith
Sounds more like we have been put on notice for a rate hike or worse SMART METERS!
David Amos
Reply to @Don Smith: Ya can't say that i didn't warn ya many times
Terry Tibbs
We have a situation where most folks are sitting home entertaining themselves, so somehow, we are to believe usage is down, and it's not like one single residential user gets any special deals. Yet losing money is supposedly what happened? Right.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Its not rocket science
Norman Albert Snr
Guess that would have something to do with the call I got today not allowing incentive grants for upgrade during a Pandemic
David Amos
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Yup
Lou Bell
So really , the loss should already be mostly made up by now if one understands the markets and where they stand today . I have a suspicion there's more to this than just those investments !
James Vander
Reply to @Lou Bell: There's always more to this when it's NB Power, however, the markets are still a long way from their pre-Covid highs.
Commercial power usage would be down so far that residential rates would never cover off. I'm not defending NB Power by any means, but this is their latest excuse for missing the numbers....Not sure which one they'll use next time.
Commercial power usage would be down so far that residential rates would never cover off. I'm not defending NB Power by any means, but this is their latest excuse for missing the numbers....Not sure which one they'll use next time.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your hero Higgy would say it ain't so after all Vestcor was his creation N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Vander: You're wrong ! Actually the markets are near their pre COVID highs !
James Vander
Reply to @Lou Bell: Really? The TSX being off by almost 2000 points yesterday is hardly being close to pre-Covid highs. Ask anyone who is on an income based on stock market performance how they are doing and if they've noticed a drop in income lately. Not gov't pensions, but those in the real world.
Not everyone bought Tesla and gold stocks..../ We are in a recession.
Not everyone bought Tesla and gold stocks..../ We are in a recession.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-point-lepreau-nuclear-plant-running-like-newborn-1.5652829
Aging Point Lepreau nuclear plant is running like a newborn
New Brunswick plant has operated trouble-free for one year
· CBC· Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:00 AM AT
The Point Lepreau nuclear generating station is a 705 mega watt Candu-6 reactor. It has been a fixture at the edge of the Bay of Fundy for nearly four decades. (Submitted/NB Power)
New Brunswick's 37-year-old nuclear plant at Point Lepreau quietly completed a full year of uninterrupted power generation earlier this week, the first since its pre-teen years in the early 1990s.
It's a significant development that, if sustainable, holds the potential to alter the financial fortunes of NB Power.
"This accomplishment, especially through the COVID-19 pandemic, is something the station is proud of," the utility said in a statement about the milestone.
The nuclear plant was shut down for a week last summer for an unexpected repair but since coming back online on July 15, 2019, it has run trouble free.
Former premier Richard Hatfield loved large modern economic development projects and pushed for the adoption of nuclear power in New Brunswick. After years of construction and controversy, Lepreau went into commercial production in 1983. (CBC NEWS)
Over the last year, Lepreau has generated close to 5.8 terawatt hours of electricity for distribution, about $400 million worth depending on market prices, and close to 100 per cent of its maximum capacity.
NB Power believes it is the longest the plant has run without shutting down since at least 1994, and perhaps ever, since earlier records are not easily accessed.
"It is a bit more difficult to go any further than the 26 years (1994)," said NB Power spokesperson Marc Belliveau in an email about whether it has ever run longer.
The flawless year of operation for Lepreau follows the investment of several hundred million dollars in the plant to solve serious performance problems that emerged following its $2.4 billion refurbishment that ended in 2012.
It produced only 90 per cent of the electricity expected of it during the first seven and a half years after refurbishment due to a number of malfunctions in non nuclear equipment that had not been upgraded during the effort to replace nuclear components.
$500 million in repairs
Lepreau began what was supposed to be an 18-month, $1.4 billion refurbishment of its nuclear components in 2008. The renovation finished three years late and $1 billion over budget, and the plant performed below expectations until recently. (Photo submitted)
Multiple unscheduled shutdowns caused by the malfunctions between 2012 and last July cost NB Power more than $200 million in lost electrical production and pushed the cost of capital repairs and upgrades to improve reliability at Lepreau to more than $500 million.
That has been weighing down NB Power's bottom line and undermining plans to pay down debt.
At rate hearings in front of the Energy and Utilities Board over several years, utility executives have been predicting the heavy expenditures at Lepreau would eventually pay off in increased reliability.
NB Power has been unable to pay down its multi-billion dollar debt as planned since 2013 in part because of production problems and maintenance costs at the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station. (Submitted/NB Power)
It has and NB Power now expects Lepreau to fuel an increase in its profitability.
"If we think about what have been the primary drivers that have led to subpar (financial) performance the last number of years, we can point to Point Lepreau's performance coming out of the refurbishment," NB Power's chief financial officer, Darren Murphy, said at hearings in February during Lepreau's current mistake-free run.
"Unfortunately, it did not perform as we would have liked. However … we have been able to substantially improve the performance of Point Lepreau, therefore, reducing the risk that Lepreau will be the (cause) of subpar performance."
Originally, Lepreau was scheduled to be taken offline in April for annual maintenance but COVID-19 restrictions in the province derailed those plans until September. Instead it has kept running and setting production records.
52 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.David Amos
Methinks folks should consider how much power we need N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
Let's not forget that running for extended periods and deferring maintenance to do so is part of what got that plant into trouble in the 1st place. It is too valuable an asset to suffer such abuse. Deferral of a necessary maintenance shutdown -- even if that deferral was made necessary by the pandemic -- is a poor excuse for a celebration.
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Good point
Morgan Brown
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Point Lepreau is not suffering abuse; the planned maintenance shutdown in April was the preferred target for the outage (i.e., Spring lower demand period). Delaying the outage until the Fall (another lower-demand period) is well within the safe capability of the unit, but utilities prefer to perform maintenance when scheduled (It's a huge effort to plan all the activities and coordinate the crews, contractors and supplies). Bruce-1 (also a CANDU, in Ont) just completed a 694-day continuous run, and Darlington-1 (also an Ont CANDU) passed the 903-day mark (still going), setting a new North American record for a continuous run (passing 894 days set in 1994).
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Morgan Brown: I sense that you might be an NB Power employee, probably at the nuke plant, right?
Gilles Villeneuve
We need to invest heavily in nuclear power to reduce carbon emissions and prevent climate change. Clean, emission free electricity from nuclear fired power plants is the future for our planet and is the only viable energy source that can take over from oil when it runs out.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Gilles Villeneuve: Nuclear is NOT the only viable source to take over from oil. According to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration, there are seven countries already at, or very, close to 100 percent renewable power: Iceland (100 percent), Paraguay (100), Costa Rica (99), Norway (98.5), Austria (80), Brazil (75), and Denmark (69.4). Nuclear is NOT a renewable power source and we need to stop using it. We still have not figured out what to do with nuclear waste and just look at Fukushima and Chernobyl. With things go wrong with nuclear they go wrong big time.
David Amos
Reply to @Gilles Villeneuve: Yea Right
Lewis Hamilton
Reply to @Fred Brewer: all of the countries you list, except Iceland and Denmark, use hydroelectric for the vast majority of their energy production. Iceland uses geothermal and Denmark wind. They all benefit from their particular geography. We don’t have the river system to support building dams. The environmentalists want the Mactaquac dam removed instead of replaced. Geothermal isn’t an option and neither is large scale wind. Large scale solar is also not an option because of our latitude.
Morgan Brown
Reply to @Lewis Hamilton: In addition, Denmark benefits from having a lot of inter-ties with large grids (Germany and Sweden) which provide electricity to Denmark when the winds die / at night / cloudy days. Denmark is able to sell (or at least deliver) its excess electricity to these large grids when the winds are blowing strongly. Wind and solar have their place in providing electricity to grids, but need very large storage capability (none in Denmark, I believe is still the case) or interconnections if you are going to try to power a country (or even a region).
In addition, electricity is only a portion of a country's energy consumption - fossil fuels power most transportation and a lot of heating. If these are going to be made less carbon-intensive, then much more clean electricity is needed. Hence the need for nuclear.
In addition, electricity is only a portion of a country's energy consumption - fossil fuels power most transportation and a lot of heating. If these are going to be made less carbon-intensive, then much more clean electricity is needed. Hence the need for nuclear.
Terry Tibbs
If I remember correctly, didn't everyone whine and cry when a professional was imported, and paid the big bucks, to do this very thing?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am still whining
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
You don't see this kind of turn-around without talent and talent doesn't come cheap.
John Branscombe
"Over the last year, Lepreau has generated close to 5.8 terawatts of electricity for distribution, about $400 million worth depending on market prices, and close to 100 per cent of its maximum capacity."
Good grief! It would be nice if articles about energy were written by people with some grasp of the subject they are writing about. A terawatt is a measure of power, not energy. The term that the writer should have used is terawatt hour, the unit of energy. This error is akin to saying the distance between two places is 100 km per hour or that a container holds a certain number of litres per minute. Unfortunately, such a blunder in discussing the topic displays a lack of knowledge of the subject matter and diminishes the trust one should place in the rest of the article, even if the rest is competently written. A basic science education should prevent such a lack of understanding of the subject matter.
Good grief! It would be nice if articles about energy were written by people with some grasp of the subject they are writing about. A terawatt is a measure of power, not energy. The term that the writer should have used is terawatt hour, the unit of energy. This error is akin to saying the distance between two places is 100 km per hour or that a container holds a certain number of litres per minute. Unfortunately, such a blunder in discussing the topic displays a lack of knowledge of the subject matter and diminishes the trust one should place in the rest of the article, even if the rest is competently written. A basic science education should prevent such a lack of understanding of the subject matter.
Lou Bell
Reply to @John Branscombe: Whos cares ? Ye got your 15 minutes from those few that care, now move on
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Lou Bell: Just because it does not bother you, does not mean it does not bother others. I am sure if a salesman tried to tell you a car has a fuel economy of 25 litres, you would soon be corrected him/her and would lose respect for someone who should know better.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?
Greg Miller
Bottom line--what does all this mean to my electric bill? Should I be happy or unhappy?
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: Have you ever seen your rates lowered?
Justin Time
"It is a bit more difficult to go any further than the 26 years (1994)," said NB Power spokesperson Marc Belliveau in an email about whether it has ever run longer. " I call B.S. on that. Detailed records on operation from day 1 were and are necessary and available.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: Of course
Lewis Hamilton
Reply to @Justin Time: they are likely on paper and archived somewhere. What he is saying is that nobody has the time to go digging for them just for this news article.
Alex Butt
Perhaps if the top brass of nb power stopped wasting so much money on bonuses, excessively high wages, squandering and magic joi beans the debt could be brought down. All they think about is how to take more money out of our pockets for their less than stellar service!
David Amos
Reply to @Alex Butt: That has been par for the course since I was a kid
Steve Caissie
NB Power managers must want bigger bonuses.
David Amos
Reply to @Steve Caissie: Of that I have no doubt
Ben Haroldson
Sounds like the perfect time to sell it, utility and all.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: When something run good do you sell it?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
Only if you are sure it's on it's last gasp and ALL downhill from here.
Only if you are sure it's on it's last gasp and ALL downhill from here.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: When my car runs great, I can get market value for it. When my car runs poorly or not at all then I get very little for it. So to answer your question, yes, the best time to sell something is when it is running properly.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Funny when my car runs great I keep it
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: And you know this?
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Yes i can look at a Carfax for your car what about the nuclear Power plant, maybe they have a NeclearFax for that...
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: And then when the engine explodes you pay to have the car hauled away because it is worthless. But if you had sold it a year sooner you would have gotten thousands for it. To each his own I guess. It is always a matter of judgement, you look at the age of the car, the value of the car and the risk of expensive repairs down the road. The best time to sell Point Lepreau is when it is running like a top. It is no spring chicken.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: CARFAX only tells you about accident damage. They cannot determine if the engine or transmission is about to explode.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: So you believe N.B. power when they say it's running good. That can also blow up next week.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
"Things" can change quicker than that...............
The truth is: we can't ever stop attempting to use that reactor. The clean-up, if it was ever decommissioned, would likely bankrupt Canada, never mind New Brunswick.
"Things" can change quicker than that...............
The truth is: we can't ever stop attempting to use that reactor. The clean-up, if it was ever decommissioned, would likely bankrupt Canada, never mind New Brunswick.
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy and Trudeau The Younger think we can afford anything and everything Nesy Pas?Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer There goes the sale lost 16 million in March lol..
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Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Yep so sell her now!
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: BINGOTheo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: It just lost a tire lol
Fred Brewer
Congratulations! Now if you can keep that up for the next 12 years or so, we might be able to recoup the $2.4 billion cost of the last refit. On an all-costs basis, will Point Lepreau ever turn a profit? I doubt it very much.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: If they get the Smart Meters they want ,they will run a profit you can bet on it...
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Yes they may turn a profit on smart meters after the $13 million cost has been recovered, and after NB Power hikes the power rates for time of day power use. But any profits earned won't come close to what they have lost on boondoggle projects like Lepreau and Coleson Cove.
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
No 'Smart Meter" for me !!!
And I'm hoping The PUB won't give permission
for their use !!!
No 'Smart Meter" for me !!!
And I'm hoping The PUB won't give permission
for their use !!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: Methinks my friend Roger Richard has been working very diligently to make your wish come true N'esy Pas?David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
pete prosser
What ever happened to all the law suits? Did we ever win any?
David Amos
Reply to @pete prosser: Kinda sorta
Do you think it's a good idea to have a secretive 'board' controlling huge swathes of NB's economy, like the eub does?
Don't forget that they oversee the transportation industry as well.