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Reply to @Randy McNally: Good question 






https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-bill-11-notwithstanding-clause-1.5614659

MLAs vote to drop notwithstanding clause from mandatory vaccination bill

Contentious legislation seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 16, 2020 5:58 PM AT



A committee of MLAs have voted to remove the notwithstanding clause from Education Minister Dominic Cardy's mandatory vaccination bill. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)

A committee of MLAs has voted to remove the controversial notwithstanding clause from a bill on mandatory vaccinations.

Members of all parties, including the governing Progressive Conservatives, voted unanimously to strike the clause, which would have protected the proposed law from future constitutional challenges in court.

That could improve the odds that the bill will eventually pass, since some Liberal MLAs have said they could only vote yes to the legislation if the clause was removed.

The bill would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the requirement that children be vaccinated if they attend public schools. It will take effect for the 2021-22 school year.

Victoria-La Vallée Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson introduced the amendment to remove the clause after accusing Education Minister Dominic Cardy of moving too fast to take away people's rights without looking at other options such as education campaigns.


Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson says use of the notwithstanding clause creates 'a slippery slope' and other alternatives should be pursued.

"Once the freedom is gone it's good for good, and if we're going to take away rights and freedoms, we better have tried every other alternative and we better have a darned good reason," Chiasson said.

"I fear that we're headed down a slippery slope that we don't need to head down at this time, because there are alternatives. I for one just won't be part of it."

Chiasson emphasized that he was speaking for himself and not for his party.

All Liberal MLAs are allowed a free vote on the legislation, and Premier Blaine Higgs has said all PC members, including cabinet ministers, can also vote their consciences.

PC MLA Bruce Northrup has already said he will vote against the legislation, while other Tories have said they will wait to see the final amended version of the bill before deciding.

The legislation would allow Public Heath officials to establish a list of required vaccinations. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.

The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.

Controversial clause

Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday.


Education Minister Dominic Cardy says the current exemptions are 'often abused.' (CBC)

Chiasson, the party's education critic, pointed out that last year, Dr. Noni MacDonald, a well-known Nova Scotia pediatrician, called mandatory vaccine laws "a simple solution to a complex problem."

She called for better education campaigns to persuade parents, something Chiasson said Cardy should try before he passes a bill infringing on rights.
"Why would we not try that before we went down the road of mandatory vaccinations?" he asked.
Cardy responded that the existing system already violates the rights of children who can't go to school because they have weakened immune systems and the risk of an infection is too great.

More vaccinations would create herd immunity that would make it safe for them, he said.
 
 
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says he's struggling on which way to vote. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin inched closer to a clear statement Tuesday on how he'll vote, saying he'll be "hard-pressed" to support something that in his view violates parental rights.

But he concluded his questions to Cardy without declaring what he'll do, saying he was "really struggling" with how to vote.

'This is a balancing of rights'

Cardy acknowledged Tuesday that it's still not possible to provide a clear picture of vaccination rates in schools. There is no breakdown of how many exemptions are religious, how many are philosophical and how many are for valid medical reasons.

But he said the existing exemptions are "often abused," with people claiming medical reasons when there are none or citing supposed religious prohibitions to vaccinations that don't exist.

He also admitted that parental rights would be limited by the bill but he said the education system already limits other rights when it prevents students from bringing weapons, or even peanut butter, to school.

"This is a balancing of rights," he said.

Tuesday's committee session adjourned without a final vote on the bill. Debate is expected to resume Wednesday afternoon.



 



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David Amos
Go Figure

"Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday." 


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Not another case of the Higgs shuffle, or maybe a Higgs shuffle with a twist, the twist of ignoring the government lawyers (what would they know anyway?) setting the whole thing up for failure............
I do know 1 thing though, when politicians say things like "it's a balancing of rights" it most surely isn't by any stretch of anyone's imagination.











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Speaking out against Bill 11 at the New Brunswick Legislature!!!!

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-cardy-new-brunswick-1.5605162

Much-anticipated mandatory vaccination debate begins in N.B. legislature

Review of contentious Bill 11 extended into Wednesday

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 09, 2020 6:12 PM AT


The controversial Bill 11 seeks to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren to be vaccinated. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)


Education Minister Dominic Cardy has warned his fellow MLAs that the issue of mandatory vaccinations won't be going away.

Cardy made the comments as a committee of the legislature began a long-awaited consideration of Bill 11, his legislation to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren.

"When faith in science and institutions is coming under more threat and pressure than at probably any other point in our lifetimes, this bill is a firewall to protect our schoolchildren," Cardy said.


"Because this won't be the end of the discussion. Vote yes or no on this bill, if there's a vaccine for COVID-19, how will we have that conversation? These are the problems we're all going to face as legislators. The question now is what we do about it."


Education Minister Dominic Cardy said Tuesday his bill is a 'firewall to protect our schoolchildren.' (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)


The committee's review of the bill is expected to continue Wednesday.

Bill 11 would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

An earlier version of Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic, and the bill has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

The legislation would apply to a list of vaccines established by Health Canada. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.
The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.

The first version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.

In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

Fairness questioned

On Tuesday afternoon, Liberal MLA and education critic Chuck Chiasson questioned the logic behind some aspects of the bill, such as the fact it applies to children but not to adults working in schools.

"If you're a child and you're not vaccinated, you cannot attend school," he said. "If you're an adult and you're not vaccinated, you can attend school.

"To me it just doesn't sound like something that is — I could say — fair. It's not affording exactly the outcome that the minister is looking for."


Liberal education critic Chuck Chiasson said he was frustrated with the lack of information coming from the education minister.


He also said it was hard to decide on how to support the bill when Cardy, citing privacy rules, wouldn't provide a breakdown of how many exemptions are medical, how many are philosophical and how many are religious.

At one point Chiasson said he was frustrated with how long Cardy was taking to answer his questions.

"I don't need all this pomp and ceremony around each question that I ask," he said. "I find it kind of disturbing that I have to keep digging and digging just to get that straight answer."

Cardy explained that because of physical distancing requirements, he was relying on staff to help him answer questions via a digital device and that's why his replies were taking so long.

Notwithstanding clause

In his questions, Chiasson did not broach a key issue for the Liberal opposition: the bill's invocation of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which would shield the bill from a constitutional challenge.

Both the Liberals and the Greens have said they will try to remove the clause.

At last summer's hearings on the first version of the bill, one national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November citing the notwithstanding clause of the charter. That would exempt the bill from a charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.

Premier Blaine Higgs is giving all his MLAs, including his cabinet ministers, a free vote on the bill. The Liberals are expected to vote in unison against the bill if the notwithstanding clause stays in but will be able to vote freely if it comes out.

The Greens and the People's Alliance have also raised concerns about the use of the notwithstanding clause.








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David Amos
I repeat Methinks Cardy's all knowing attitude is becoming more of burden for Higgy et al with each passing day N'esy Pas?



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john smith
if it wasnt for this bill i would almost back cardy but he has shown his plumage as a tyrant










https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-new-brunswick-cardy-anderson-mason-1.5586973

PC ministers spar over vaccination bill, but debate unexpectedly delayed

Attorney General Andrea Anderson-Mason voiced discomfort with Education Minister Dominic Cardy's bill

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2020 4:38 PM AT



Education Minister Dominic Cardy wants to use the notwithstanding clause to fend off court challenges to his mandatory vaccination bill. (CBC)

The long-awaited and potential decisive phase in New Brunswick's debate over mandatory vaccinations was abruptly put on hold Wednesday.

MLAs were poised to begin studying Education Minister Dominic Cardy's Bill 11, which would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

But the sitting of the legislative committee that was going to examine the bill was abruptly called off when Cardy had to attend a special meeting of the government's all-party committee on COVID-19 happening at the same time.

"It would be impossible to have proper debate on this bill without his presence, so committee was delayed until next Tuesday," said Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault.
Opposition MLAs on the committee hope to amend the bill in a way that could make or break its chances of passing.

Both the Liberals and the Greens will try to remove the bill's use of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. By invoking the clause, the legislation is shielded from a constitutional challenge.

Attorney general voices concern

At the same time, two Progressive Conservative cabinet ministers continue to spar over the need for the legislation.

Attorney-General Andrea Anderson-Mason has repeatedly signalled she's not comfortable with the bill, and in a recent Facebook post implicitly rejected Cardy's description of its opponents.

"I was originally told that the only people who would oppose this bill would be people on the fringe," she said in a May 24 post. "That was incorrect."


She said that "being told by government what you can or cannot do with your body does not settle well."

Cardy said Tuesday he was not concerned with his PC cabinet colleague's comments.

"I think Andrea Anderson-Mason's comments have been pretty clear, and I think mine are as well, and I'm happy mine are backed by science and reason, and I'm happy to go forward on that basis," he said.


Andrea Anderson-Mason, minister of justice and attorney general, has signalled concern about the government telling people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. (Radio-Canada)

Cardy also repeated his criticisms of opponents of the bill, including protestors on the lawn of the legislature Tuesday who didn't practice physical distancing from each other.

He described them as people "who subscribe to a vague, weird Trumpian ideal of how the world works."

The unusual public spectacle of two ministers sparring over a piece of legislation would normally be untenable in the Westminster system of cabinet government.

But Higgs is allowing all his MLAs, including his ministers, a free vote on the bill.


"I don't relish the idea of two ministers duking it out in the public, but it is what it is," he said Tuesday. "They can each vote their own way."

Anderson-Mason did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

Bill would come into effect fall 2021

Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic and has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

The bill would eliminate philosophical, religious and other non-medical exemptions from an existing requirement that all school children be vaccinated.

Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.

An earlier version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.
In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

One national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November that includes the use of the notwithstanding clause of the Charter.

That would exempt the bill from a Charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he's concerned for government overreach with the current makeup of the bill. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said this week his party remains "concerned" about the preemptive suspension of Charter rights and will try to amend the bill to take out the clause. That will make it more likely that some Liberal MLAs can vote for it.

Cardy said again this week he is willing to remove the notwithstanding clause."For me, it wouldn't be a compromise," he said. "I have no issues with the notwithstanding clause not being included. I felt the bill would stand without it and I'm very happy to support it without it."

Vickers said the debate is really about "the best way to get the most number of people vaccinated" and said Liberal MLAs would also be able to vote freely on the bill.

Green Party Leader David Coon said his party will also introduce amendments, including one to remove the notwithstanding clause. Another would give chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell the power to decide when the bill takes effect.
 

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said his party will try amend the bill to remove the notwithstanding clause. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Meanwhile, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin sounded a sceptical note about the legislation.
He said whether the notwithstanding clause stays in the bill or comes out, it's use is an acknowledgement the legislation is not constitutional.

"For me the real question is more about people's right to choose for themselves," he said, questioning whether school staff, health-care workers and eventually other government employees will also be subjected to similar laws.

"Where do we stop?" he said. "It's about government overreach to me."

Cardy said he's optimistic that there will be enough MLAs from all parties who see the merits of the bill, especially with COVID-19 highlighting the importance of vaccinations.
 




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David Amos
Methinks whereas the Minister of Health is a lawyer I bet some folks would like to know where Teddy Baby stands on the need for Cardy's vaccination legislation and his latest scheme about the notwithstanding clause N'esy Pas? 












Lou Bell
Guess some politicians have less of a concern for the health of their constituents than others ! Not really surprising . Money trumps doing the right thing . Move on Ms. Anderson- Mason , you've had your 15 minutes of infamy .


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David Amos

Surprise Surprise Surprise The legislature just adjourned til June 9th 














john smith
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treating healthy people as lepars is really quite rich





https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/covid-19-vaccine-public-health-1.5627376

Potential COVID-19 vaccine has re-energized anti-vaccination groups, health experts warn

Misinformation out in full force, and health officials must catch up, scientists say

 

Nicole Ireland· CBC News· Posted: Jun 29, 2020 4:00 AM ET


A scientist works in a laboratory in Oxford, U.K., where a potential vaccine against COVID-19 is going through early phases of clinical trials. (Steve Parsons/Pool via Reuters)


As Canadians yearn for an end to the COVID-19 pandemic and a time they can once again hug their elderly loved ones or gather in large groups without fear of infection, many are pinning their hopes on unprecedented global efforts to develop a vaccine against the virus.

But even though most infectious disease experts say the earliest possible timeframe would be at least a year or two away, anti-vaccination groups are already well into online and social media campaigns stoking doubts about the safety — and even questioning the necessity — of a coronavirus vaccine.

"I just am astonished at how early the anti-vaccine narrative has started," Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the University of Toronto's Dalla Lana School of Public Health, said in an interview with CBC's The Dose health podcast.


"We are really facing a major, major challenge," Crowcroft told podcast host Dr. Brian Goldman.

"And unless our public health leaders can generate a lot of trust, it's going to be very, very difficult."

That's because anti-vaccination groups have become extremely savvy communicators and "seem to be much better" than public health experts at reaching out to a variety of people with different ideologies — from those who distrust pharmaceutical companies to those protesting public health lockdowns aimed at curbing the spread of coronavirus, Crowcroft said.


The global focus on developing a coronavirus vaccine is unlike anything ever seen before, says Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the University of Toronto's Dalla Lana School of Public Health and a senior technical adviser with the World Health Organization. (Claude Martel)


Anti-vaccination groups in both Canada and the U.S. are positioning themselves as advocates for what they call "personal freedoms" and "medical choice" in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic — posting content online and on social media that not only targets vaccination, but also protests the closure of businesses, physical distancing requirements and the wearing of masks. 

Vaccine Choice Canada — one of the most high-profile anti-vaccination organizations in this country, announced in a letter posted to its website on May 13 that it was "launching legal action against the Government of Canada and others for violating our rights and freedoms during the COVID-19 outbreak."

In a June 18 episode of Digi-Debates posted on YouTube, the president of Vaccine Choice Canada, Ted Kuntz, claimed that COVID-19 was no more deadly than influenza — and argued that a vaccine was unnecessary.

WATCH | Need to address questions and doubts about vaccines, epidemiologist says
 

Epidemiologist Dr. Christopher Labos says the vast majority of a population needs to be vaccinated in order to develop herd immunity. 1:58

But infectious disease and public health experts widely agree that COVID-19 is far more lethal than the flu. According to the Public Health Agency of Canada, more than 8,500 deaths in Canada have been related to COVID-19. Based on the agency's most recent available data, deaths from influenza were far fewer. The 2018-19 flu season claimed the lives of 224 people, while just over 300 people died of influenza in the 2017-18 season.

CBC reached out to Vaccine Choice Canada via its media relations email address and also sent a Facebook message to Kuntz inviting him to comment further but did not receive a response before deadline. 

LISTEN | How close are we to an effective vaccine for COVID-19?


As we continue to grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic, most of us are anxious to return to normal life, when we can hug our elderly parents or grandparents and once again gather in large groups. Many experts say that can't happen safely until a coronavirus vaccine is developed. In this unprecedented time, researchers around the world are working toward that goal, but it has to be done safely and follow a careful scientific process. Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the the Dalla Lana School of Public Health at the University of Toronto, joins host Dr. Brian Goldman to help explain how close we are to an effective vaccine against COVID-19, the barriers we must overcome to get there, and what we need to do in the meantime. 20:40


Part of the strategy used by anti-vaccination groups has been to take legitimate cautions by some well-recognized physicians in the U.S. that the quest to find a coronavirus vaccine must not be rushed and that it must go through all of the necessary steps to ensure it is safe and effective — and then misrepresent those comments as arguments against a vaccine, said Jonathan Jarry, a science communicator in the Office for Science and Society at McGill University in Montreal, which has a mandate to debunk misinformation for the public.

"We have the beginnings of a perfect storm on our hands [to fuel vaccine misinformation]," Jarry said.

In the midst of a worldwide pandemic and an unprecedented effort to develop a vaccine as quickly as possible, many people have questions and anxiety about the process, he said.

At the same time, Jarry said, the anti-vaccination movement is "seemingly re-energized and ... pushing a lot of misinformation and disinformation and lies and fuelling that anxiety."



Seniors have been particularly hard hit by the coronavirus, with many deaths occurring in long-term care homes. Physical distancing measures, like this see-through barrier at a B.C. retirement home, is an effort to keep seniors safe during the pandemic. Some infectious disease experts say it may not be fully safe to hug elderly loved ones until an effective vaccine or treatment is developed. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)


To combat that, both Crowcroft and Jarry agree, it's essential that public health officials, physicians and community leaders talk openly and transparently with Canadians about the vaccine development process and directly answer their questions and concerns — and they need to start now.

"There's a small sliver of the population that is ferociously anti-vaccination. And it's very difficult to reason with these people," Jarry said.

"But there's a larger segment of the population that is vaccine-hesitant. And that is where our efforts need to be invested."

'The current situation is so different'

One of the key concerns that needs to be directly addressed is how a coronavirus vaccine can be developed more quickly than any vaccine before it and still be safe, Jarry said.

The answer, Crowcroft said, is that "the current situation is so different that it is possible to get through the development steps faster without cutting any corners that might compromise safety."
It normally takes "years and years and years" to develop a vaccine, she said. "I mean 10 years would not be unusual."

A big part of the reason for that, Crowcroft said, is that scientists often come up with a vaccine candidate but have a difficult time getting funding to move it to the next phase of clinical trials, because every trial stage is expensive and pharmaceutical companies are hesitant to risk spending enormous amounts of money on a product that could fail at the next stage. Plus, there's often no guarantee there will be a market for the vaccine even if it does work.
But in the midst of a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry is confident that the demand for a vaccine exists, she said. In addition, governments around the world are providing funding for vaccine development, which removes the potential for a huge financial loss if a company invests in a vaccine candidate that doesn't succeed in the end.

"Governments are helping to speed things up by funding the trials so they can go on in parallel and/or the gaps between each step are shorter, without the long delays for decision-making about whether the company wants to take the [financial] risk of moving forward," said Crowcroft, who was recently appointed a senior technical adviser for the World Health Organization's measles, mumps and rubella program.

Because of that, there are more than 100 different vaccine candidates in various phases of research at the same time around the world, increasing the odds that at least one, possibly more, will prove to be safe and effective, she said.

WATCH | States brace for impact of COVID-19 surge in U.S.:



Some parts of the U.S. are bracing for the impact on hospitals as cases of COVID-19 surge amid a lack of political will to respond. 2:01


Because of advances in genetic sequencing, scientists' ability to learn about a new virus is also more advanced than it has ever been in the past, giving researchers a head start in figuring out what part of it to target with a vaccine.

"Nothing in the history of humankind has ever been seen like this before," Crowcroft said.

Finally, she said, amid all the hype as companies put out news releases boasting about their progress in vaccine development,  it's "important to remember that the press release does not determine whether a vaccine will eventually be used."

It's up to each country's regulatory agency, such as Health Canada, to determine whether a vaccine can be used and be independent of any industry influence.

"Safety cannot be compromised," Crowcroft said. "Health Canada will see to that. It is their statutory responsibility."

In an emailed statement to CBC, Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada's chief public health officer, said that before any vaccine is approved for use in this country, "Health Canada conducts rigorous scientific reviews and testing of the vaccine to assess the quality, safety and effectiveness."

"Once a vaccine is in use, health authorities continue to monitor the vaccine to ensure ongoing highest standards of safety."

'Empathy' and 'building trust'

But if these kinds of questions about safety, as well as other concerns, aren't dealt with directly by public health officials — or if the public doesn't trust them —  anti-vaccination voices will fill that void with misinformation, Jarry warns.

The most effective way to talk to people who are vaccine-hesitant, he said, "all boils down to empathy and to listening and to building trust."

It's important not to criticize people for expressing concerns, even if they are based on misinformation that has long ago been debunked, he said.

"If we ignore them because we don't have time or if we ignore them because we think they're silly, the anti-vaccination movement will end up polarizing the vaccine-hesitant segment of the population against vaccination," Jarry said. "And then vaccine uptake is going to keep going down."

We've already seen the toll that vaccine refusal can take with the re-emergence of measles, he said.
Crowcroft estimates that for a coronavirus vaccine to be effective at protecting the population, between 60 and 70 per cent of people need to be immunized.

"I'm not sure we're doing everything we can yet to prepare," she said. "We really do need to start, you know, having those discussions with communities and building relationships so that they do trust in their [public health] leaders."



An ad from the Ontario Medical Association aimed at combating overall vaccine hesitancy is pictured in a bus shelter. (Paul Smith/CBC)


In her statement to CBC, Tam said she recognized that "vaccine hesitancy is still very much an ongoing issue within Canada and worldwide."

"In collaboration with my provincial and territorial colleagues and other stakeholders, foundational work has already begun to prepare for the possible release of a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in Canada, if and when it becomes available," Tam said.
That work, she said, would include "developing strategies and resources to inform and educate to build vaccine confidence as well as combat stigma, misinformation and fear around the release of a new vaccine."

The Public Health Agency of Canada, which Tam heads, said in a separate statement to CBC that "efforts to inform and educate to build vaccine confidence are part of the agency's regular business" and that it would use similar information and social media campaigns "when a new COVID-19 vaccine is released to ensure that Canadians have the proper information to inform their choice to receive the vaccine when available."




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Michael G. L. Geraldson
I'd trust my healthcare professional's opinion a lot more than some anonymous quack on the internet, but hey that's just me. 








 




 https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/exemptions/new-brunswick-mandates-take-action/

New Brunswick Mandates – Take Action

June 18, 2020 By Vaccine Choice Canada

Bill 11 An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization – defeated June 18, 2020

Update June 27, 2020
Update June 26, 2020
Bill forcing parents to vaccinate their kids to attend school fails to pass in Canadian province– The bill would have removed religious and philosophical exemptions as reasons a parent could opt their children out of vaccination programs. – LifeSiteNews.com
Update June 24, 2020
Green MLAs hit with ‘social media storm’ following vaccination bill abstentions– Controversial Bill 11 defeated 22-20 after 3 Green MLAs abstain from vote
Chris Harrigan’s YouTube Channel has videos from the Bill 11 protests in Fredericton, NB.
Update June 23, 2020
‘Their views are unacceptable in 2020,’ N.B. education minister says of anti-vaxxers– CTV News – “He says there won’t be a second bill, saying his colleagues have spoken, but it won’t stop him from confronting the issue, on social media or otherwise.”
Dominic Cardy’s behaviour is reprehensible– Kevin Vickers, Leader of the New Brunswick Liberal Party
Green party abdicates responsibility on Bill 11 vote– New Brunswick Liberal Party
Update June 18, 2020
Bill 11 was defeated.
Mandatory vaccination bill defeated 22-20– Bill sought to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for schoolchildren – CBC
New Brunswick’s mandatory vaccination bill voted down– Global News – “On Thursday, the motion was defeated by a close margin of 22-19.”
Greens abstain from Bill-11 vote– Green Party of New Brunswick
Update June 17, 2020
Mandatory vaccination bill ready for final legislature vote– Bill seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children
**UPDATE**  Bill 11 has been passed by the Committee – vote in the full house *possible* tomorrow June 18, 2020.
STATUS OF BILL HERE (including link to amendment).
View CBC Twitter thread of the Committee here.
MLAs vote to drop notwithstanding clause from mandatory vaccination bill– Contentious legislation seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children – CBC – “A committee of MLAs has voted to remove the controversial notwithstanding clause from a bill on mandatory vaccinations.”
Update June 13, 2020
Fredericton Protest 2 against Bill 11 June 9th 2020– 44:25 video
More videos see Chris Harrigan’s YouTube Page.
Update June 9, 2020
Much-anticipated mandatory vaccination debate begins in N.B. legislature– Review of contentious Bill 11 extended into Wednesday – CBC
The Third Session of the 59th Legislative Assembly stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 9, 2020.
NB Legislative Assembly – WITHDRAW BILL 11 with or without the “notwithstanding” clause– for New Brunswick citizens – Change.org
Say No To Bill 11– New Brunswick Residents have their say!  3:26 video
Update May 27, 2020
PC ministers spar over vaccination bill, but debate unexpectedly delayed– Attorney General Andrea Anderson-Mason voiced discomfort with Education Minister Dominic Cardy’s bill – “‘It would be impossible to have proper debate on this bill without his presence, so committee was delayed until next Tuesday [June 2],’ said Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault.”
Update May 26, 2020
Bill 11  was referred to the Standing Committee on Economic Policy which sat May 26 and will also sit on May 27.  Third reading for could potentially be held on May 28.  For Legislative Calendar Click Here.  Bill 11 status here   Watch the legislature online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp  Click Webcasts.**
Mandatory vaccinations among issues for debate in N.B. legislature– Global News
Update May 23, 2020
Ted Kuntz’s Appeal to New Brunswick MLAs re: Bill 11 Vote– Sent via Courier – delivered to the NB Legislature May 22, 2020
Update May 13, 2020
Cardy hopes to pass contentious vaccination bill by summer– Education minister optimistic COVID-19 pandemic raised awareness of importance of vaccines – CBC
Update May 12, 2020
New Brunswick Bill 11 Letter – Denial of Equal Access to Public Education– Copy and personalize for your MLA
Update May 6, 2020
On May 5, 2020 – this was to be the day that the NB legislature would return to sit for one day – New Brunswick residents held a protest in front of the legislature. 
The next day scheduled for the legislature to sit is May 26, 2020
Update April 2020
To Members of the New Brunswick Legislature re: Bill 11 From Ted Kuntz– Package was sent via Canada Post on April 14, 2020
Update March 11, 2020
Bill 11 passed 2nd reading in the New Brunswick Legislature on March 11, 2020.  You can view the video here– start at 4:00:00.   The Bill was referred to the Standing Committee on Economic Policy.   For Legislative Calendar Click Here.  Bill 11 status here   Watch the legislature online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp  Click Webcasts.**
New Brunswick Mandatory Vaccine Bill 39 Legal Opinion– A Threat to Liberty and Bodily Autonomy: Compelling Individuals to Choose Between Vaccinations and Public Education Submissions on Bill 39: An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization Brief to the Standing Committee on Law Amendments
Consent or Coercion? – Prepared for Members of NB Legislature (pdf)
Update December 19, 2019
Vaccination is Not Immunization – Why Bill 11 Should Be Defeated– letter to David Coon, MLA and Leader of the New Brunswick Green Party from Ted Kuntz
Update December 11, 2019
A Parent’s Appeal to New Brunswick MLAs on Bill 11– e-mail was sent to individual New Brunswick MLAs by VCC on December 10, 2019.
Update December 9, 2019
Dear NB School Superintendents, Trustees, Principals and Teachers re: Bill 11– includes MS Word document to personalize
Update November 28, 2019
Update and Call to Action to members on New Brunswick Bill 11An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization and the NS & PEI Call for Mandates
Update November 27, 2019
Mandatory-vaccination bill could be in trouble over suspension of charter rights– Bill would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from current public school vaccine policy – “A bill to toughen mandatory-vaccination rules for schoolchildren looked to be in trouble on Wednesday as more MLAs spoke out against its use of the Constitution’s notwithstanding clause to forestall legal challenges. Three People’s Alliance MLAs said they may not support the bill because of the inclusion of the clause, which leader Kris Austin called a “nuclear button” that should be used only rarely. The bill introduced last week by Education Minister Dominic Cardy would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions to the policy of forcing children attending public schools to be vaccinated. Including the notwithstanding clause would allow the law to override 10 sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those that guarantee freedom of religion. ‘I think the inclusion of that is an admission that they’re violating somebody’s rights,’ Alliance MLA Rick DeSaulniers told reporters. ‘It’s really quite simple. It’s obvious.’ … Premier Blaine Higgs confirmed DeSaulniers’s analysis when he told reporters that government lawyers concluded the bill would violate charter rights and would be struck down if it didn’t include the notwithstanding clause. ‘It’s something I would have preferred not to utilize,’ Higgs said, but the legal advice was ‘that we’d be challenged and ultimately lose’ in court without the clause.”
Update November 25, 2019
2nd reading is possible any time (Bill 11 is on the order paper, but it is up to the government when second reading is).   You can watch online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp   Click Webcasts.
Update November 22, 2019
Bill 11 First Reading – An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
Text of BILL 11 – An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
New Brunswick uses notwithstanding clause in 2nd bid to pass vaccination bill– Move would ward off court challenges to controversial mandatory immunization legislation – “New Brunswick’s education minister is making rare use of the Canadian Constitution’s notwithstanding clause to ensure his new legislation on mandatory vaccinations won’t be overturned by court challenges. Dominic Cardy introduced the bill, his second attempt to eliminate non-medical exemptions to vaccination rules, in the legislature on Friday morning. Section 4 of the bill says the legislation is “declared to operate notwithstanding” 10 provisions of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That means the bill can’t be struck down by the courts even if it contravenes those sections of the charter. Among those sections are provisions that protect freedom of religion and equal rights regardless of religion.”
Update November 20, 2019
First Report of the Standing Committee on Law Amendments Third Session 59th Legislative Assembly of the Province of New Brunswick November 20, 2019 (pdf) – “The report is the result of your Committee’s deliberations on Bill 39, An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization.”
Next vaccination bill won’t back down from dropping non-medical exemptions, Cardy says– Premier Blaine Higgs hinted Tuesday non-medical exemptions could be considered – “Education Minister Dominic Cardy says a revised bill on mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren won’t be a retreat from his goal of eliminating non-medical exemptions. Cardy said Wednesday the legislation should be introduced by the end of next week and will still put an end to the ability of parents to exempt their children from vaccinations on religious and philosophical grounds.”
Update October 25, 2019
New Brunswick throne speech will delay mandatory vaccination bill– A new session of the legislature opens in November, which means the bill will die on the order paper
Update October 1, 2019
Transcripts of the New Brunswick Standing Committee on Law Amendments meetings.
August 27, 2019 (pdf)
August 28, 2019 (pdf)
August 29, 2019 (pdf)
Update September 8, 2019
New Brunswick Mandatory Vaccine Bill 39 Legal Opinion– A Threat to Liberty and Bodily Autonomy: Compelling Individuals to Choose Between Vaccinations and Public Education Submissions on Bill 39: An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization Brief to the Standing Committee on Law Amendments
The Standing Committee on Law Amendments met in the Legislative Council Chamber August 27-29, 2019
Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – Tuesday August 27, 2019  Length 6:36:17
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=130&lang=en

• Hon. Dominic Cardy
• Dr. Serge Melanson
• Dr. Bob Sears
• Dr. Meryl Nass
• Dr. Dena Churchill
• Dr. James Lyons-Weiler
• James Kitchen
• Dr. Jennifer Russell, Chief Medical Officer of Health, New Brunswick

Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – August 28, 2019  Length 6:41:51
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=131&lang=en

• Monica St-Amand
• Vaccine Choice Canada – Ted Kuntz, Vice-President
• Andrew Mader and Ethan Mader
• International Advocates Against Mandates – Terra-Lynn Coggan, Founder and ambassador
• Office of the Child, Youth and Seniors’ Advocate – Norman Bossé, Q.C. Child, Youth and Seniors’ Advocate
• Nicole Ouellette
• Diane Doucet
• Andy Clark
• Dr. Michelle Greason, Ph.D, RSW / Ph.D., TSI
• Stephanie Mallet
• Shannon Mosher
• Kenneth Neilson

Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – August 29, 2019 Length 5:43:58
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=132&lang=en

• Lily Smallwood
• Meagan Eskritt
• Brett Jackson, B.Sc., Pharm and Paul Blanchard, Executive Director, New Brunswick Pharmacists’ Association
• Melissa Richard
• Elizabeth Kramer
• Alex Dingwall
• John Hansen
• Kelli Urquhart
• Jean-Sebastien Theriault
• Alicia Szezendor

Update September 2, 2019
VCC Advocates for Medical Freedom in New Brunswick– Includes audio and text of Ted Kuntz’s presentation to the Committee.
Bill 39 Dialogue presented by Concerned Citizens of New Brunswick August 27th 2019– 2 hour video including Dr. Robert Sears, Dr. Meryl Nass, James Lyons-Weiler, PhD., James Kitchen and Dr. Dena Churchill DC
Nova Scotia Alternative Autism Awareness created YouTube audio recordings from the New Brunswick Bill 39 Mandatory Vaccine Committee Hearing speakers
Why are legislatures imposing vaccine mandates now? My testimony to the New Brunswick, Canada legislature on August 27, 2019– Meryl Nass MD
Update August 12, 2019– VCC’s July 25 letter and package to Norman Bossé, Q.C., New Brunswick Child and Youth Advocate
July 29, 2019 – VCC’s June/July 2019 V-Bulletin– includes segment on New Brunswick Education Minister justifies plan to ban children from school
Update July 22, 2019 – New Resources are available below, including an MLA package – Click here.
New Brunswick Bill 39– An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
July 11, 2019 – New Brunswickers invited to comment on two legislative proposals – News Release– Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick

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On June 7, 2019 the New Brunswick Legislature passed the First Reading of Act Respecting Proof of Immunization, which “would remove non-medical exemptions from the mandatory immunization requirements for public school and licensed early learning and child care admissions. The amendments are to the Education Act and the Public Health Act.”
Press Release from the New Brunswick government.
CBC – New Brunswick moves toward mandatory immunization for students– Legislative amendments introduced Friday would remove all non-medical exemptions
June 11, 2019– Second Reading did not pass – bill was debated and referred to Standing Committee on Law Amendments – view archived webcast here (see 1:03:30 to 1:07:00 and again at 1:15:00)
Resources, letter ideas, MLA contact information below.

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Dear New Brunswick Parents and Residents,
Thank you for standing strong and being warriors in the battle to protect our rights and freedoms. As all of you are aware, our right to parental decision-making, therapeutic choice, informed consent, and bodily sovereignty are all being threatened by the intention of the current New Brunswick government to “remove non-medical exemptions from the mandatory immunization requirements for public school and licensed early learning and child care admissions. The amendments are to the Education Act and the Public Health Act.”
This is Not A Medical Issue
This is a critical time in the evolution of our society. The for-profit medical industry and corporate controlled media would have you believe that we face a dire threat of deadly infectious diseases unless each and every one of our children are fully vaccinated. This is not true. This fear mongering is a distortion of the risk. There is no medical justification for imposing vaccine mandates. And the risk of vaccine injury is completely ignored by our medical industry and governments.
Whether you are a parent who has confidence in the vaccine paradigm, or one who is questioning the claims of ‘safety and effectiveness’, what we all can agree on is that, as citizens of a free country and as parents, we ought to have the right to choose. Vaccines have known risks, including death. Where there is risk, there must be choice.
These efforts to impose medical decisions upon individuals and families is not isolated to New Brunswick. In fact, there is a global movement that is well-funded and well organized by the medical industry to deprive citizens around the world of their right to choose. Right now, there are protests in many countries – Italy, Poland, Australia, United States and India demanding protection of our right to choose and bodily sovereignty.
This is a Civil Rights Issue
This is not a medical issue. This is a civil rights issue. This is the largest and most important civil rights issue since the civil rights movement in the United States in the 1960’s, and the movement to give women the right to vote. The impact of this civil rights movement affects every human on the planet. The medical industry is actively committed to removing our right to say ‘no’ to unwanted medical interventions that carry risk. This, by an industry that carries no legal liability for the harm, injuries and deaths caused by their products.
Unfortunately, our politicians are acting in ways that are eroding our rights rather than protecting them from greedy and morally corrupt corporations. And our mainstream and social media have been fully captured by the corporate agenda and financing and can no longer be trusted to tell us the truth. This is why a movement of parents is so critical.
Educate and Insist
With this letter are a number of documents to assist you to take a stand. Some of documents we encourage you to print and deliver personally to your MLA. We will start with an education strategy. We will demand that our MLAs support our right to informed consent, therapeutic choice, parental rights and bodily sovereignty. We will let them know, in very clear language, that if he or she does not stand behind our right to choose, that we will do all we can to have them removed from office.
Civil Disobedience May be Needed
We also need to be prepared to exercise non-violent civil disobedience. Whenever we go along with a law or requirement that is legally and morally wrong, we give validity to that law or requirement. Our greatest power is in not going along with what is wrong.
We appreciate that in the short-term this may create discomfort and chaos. However, we need to refuse to go along with dictates and demands that are illegal and immoral. Ontario parents have figured out after two years of ‘education sessions’, forced affidavits, and school suspensions that they must not go along. Parents are now refusing to attend education sessions, sign affidavits, and are continuing to send their children to school even when they have received a notice of suspension.
This is a time to stand up, be brave and claim our power as parents. We need to ensure the bullying tactics of the for-profit medical industry do not succeed. Don’t count on our politicians or media to fight this battle for us. Each of us must be willing to step up and say – ‘I do not consent’. You are the one you’ve been waiting for.
Thank you for your courage and your leadership.
Sincerely,
Vaccine Choice Canada

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Vaccine Action Ideas

1. Arrange to meet with your MLA in person. Bring a friend to support you.
2. Write a letter to the Premier, Health Minister and MLAs. Give the letter to your MLA. Have a copy for yourself and refer to the letter as you speak to your MLA.   For letter ideas see this page and additional resources below.
3. Invite your MLA into a discussion about your shared goal to have healthy children.
4. Ask your MLA some of the questions listed below.
5. Before leaving, ask your MLA if you can count on them to support your right to informed consent, parental rights, and therapeutic choice.
6. Get a copy of a vaccine insert and ask your MLA if he/she has read it.
7. Leave copies of the other documents with him/her.
8. Say you will follow up in a week after they have had a chance to read the materials to see if they have any questions.

Questions to Ask Your MLA?

1. What do you hope vaccine mandates will accomplish?
2. What is the medical emergency that necessitates the loss of individual and parental rights?
3. How is a dozen cases of measles a medical emergency?
4. How many measles related deaths have there been in Canada in the last 10 years?   Answer: 3 deaths, 1 adolescent (age 15-19 years) and 2 adults, 2007-2016. Significantly, NO child less than 15 years old, nor infants or young children have died from measles.
5. How many children have been killed or injured by measles containing vaccines in Canada? Answer: As reported in the Canada Vigilance database, there were 9 deaths following measles containing vaccines, 1965-2015, and 237 severe adverse events following measles containing vaccines, 1970-2011. Canada Vigilance records can be found here: https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-mmr-deaths-9-1965-2015.pdf and here: https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-mmr-237-sae-age-1-7.pdf Furthermore a large Canadian study found that 1 in 168 children end up in ER following their 12 month shots which includes MMR and other vaccines: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3236196/
6. Have you ever read a vaccine insert?
7. If the justification is measles contagion, why are other vaccines being tracked or forced on families?
8. Why is autism not considered an epidemic when it affects 1 in 79 children in New Brunswick?
9. Is NB intending to implement a vaccine injury compensation plan?
10. What screening is being planned to identify those with mitochondrial disorders who would be harmed by vaccines?
11. Who will be held accountable for vaccine injuries and deaths?
12. Will you support our right to informed consent and parental rights?

Key Messages

1. No childhood vaccines tested for safety using an inert placebo.
2. No evidence vaccines produce better overall health.
3. No medically justified reason to impose vaccine mandates.
4. No evidence eradication can be achieved with vaccines.
5. Most vaccines are not designed to prevent transmission.
6. Live viral vaccines shed up to six weeks post vaccination (why are recently vaccinated children not suspended from school until they stop shedding?).
7. No evidence that injecting pregnant women is safe.
8. Vaccines are liability free products. No incentive for vaccine manufacturers to make better or safer vaccines.
9. Claims of vaccine industry are exaggerated.
10. Vaccine-autism link has not been debunked. It’s been suppressed.
11. Systems to provide oversight and safeguards have been captured or eliminated.
12. No independent oversight. No legal oversight. No media oversight.
13. Financial conflicts of interest is the norm.
14. The International Bill of Human Rights protects the right of informed consent.
15. Less than 1% of vaccine injuries are reported.
16. Canada is the only G7 Nation without a national vaccine injury compensation
17. The safety of injected mercury and aluminum has never been established. Both were grandfathered in.
18. All vaccines should be carefully evaluated, both individually and in long-term studies, and then, synergistically, for toxicity with other vaccine

Strategy

1. Defining the terms of a debate is halfway to winning it – use the language of ‘pro-vaccine choice’, parental choice, freedom of choice, freedom of speech
2. Be precise, passionate, and assertive.
3. Demand that our rights and freedoms be respected.
4. Do not accept compromises. There is no compromise to freedom.
5. Awareness brings responsibility. We have a responsibility to warn others of vaccine injury.

Potential Allies:

1. NB nurses
2. NB daycare workers (daycare workers will be next)
3. NB teachers (teachers will be next)
4. Any adult. Adult mandates will be next

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Additional Resources:
Documents for New Brunswick residents to present to their MLA:
Consent or Coercion? – Prepared for Members of NB Legislature (pdf)
**NEW** New Brunswick Vaccine Schedule 1983 vs. 2020 (pdf)

• **NEW** Vaccine Facts Quiz For Legislators
• **NEW** Map of Canada: Vaccine Doses in Childrens’ 2020 Routine Schedules—Prenatal-18 (pdf)
• **NEW** Map of Canada: Vaccine Doses in Childrens’ 2020 Routine Schedules-Prenatal -18 (JPEG)
• **NEW** Map of Canada: Neurotoxin Load for Canadian Children following Routine Schedules in the 1st year of Life (pdf)
• **NEW** Map of Canada: Neurotoxin Load for Canadian Children following Routine Schedules in the 1st year of Life (JPEG)

Covering letter for you to personalize to your MLA. (MS Word doc format)
Questions for Canada’s Chief Medical Officer (pdf) for you to include in your MLA package.
Form letter to New Brunswick Legislators on Mandatory Vaccination– includes .docx file for you to personalize and includes e-mail addresses for all 49 MLAs in New Brunswick
VCC’s letter to Dominic Cardy and to all New Brunswick MLAs
New Brunswick Resident’s Appeal to MLAs on Mandatory Vaccination Vote
**NEW** Vaccines Given to New Brunswick Children Prenatal-18 Years– can be printed as postcard, poster, etc.
Measles in Canada – March 2019 (pdf)
An Open Letter to Legislators Currently Considering Vaccine Legislation from Tetyana Obukhanych PhD (pdf)
How to Reduce Vaccine Hesitancy (pdf)
Open Letter from International Organisations to the WHO on the Issue of Vaccine Safety (pdf)
18 Facts About Vaccine Risk (pdf)
Dear NB School Superintendents, Trustees, Principals and Teachers re: Bill 11– includes MS Word document to personalize

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Find your MLA here.
E-mail addresses for New Brunswick MLA’s (June 2019)
gilles.lepage@gnb.ca
guy.arseneault@gnb.ca
daniel.guitard@gnb.ca
brian.kenny@gnb.ca
denis.landry2@gnb.ca
isabelle.theriault@gnb.ca
robert.gauvin@gnb.ca
keith.chiasson@gnb.ca
lisa.harris@gnb.ca
michelle.conroy@gnb.ca
jake.stewart@gnb.ca
kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca
benoit.bourque@gnb.ca
jacques.j.leblanc@gnb.ca
megan.mitton@gnb.ca
roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca
monique.a.leblanc@gnb.ca
robert.mckee@gnb.ca
cathy.rogers@gnb.ca
ernie.steeves@gnb.ca
sherry.wilson@gnb.ca
bruce.fitch@gnb.ca
mike.holland@gnb.ca
ross.wetmore@gnb.ca
bruce.northrup@gnb.ca
gary.crossman@gnb.ca
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca
glen.savoie@gnb.ca
trevor.holder@gnb.ca
gerry.lowe@gnb.ca
dorothy.shephard@gnb.ca
bill.oliver@gnb.ca
andrea.andersonmason@gnb.ca
mary.wilson@gnb.ca
kris.austin@gnb.ca
jeff.carr@gnb.ca
david.coon@gnb.ca
stephen.horsman@gnb.ca
rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca
dominic.cardy@gnb.ca
carl.urquhart@gnb.ca
stewart.fairgrieve@gnb.ca
andrew.harvey@gnb.ca
chuck.chiasson@gnb.ca
jean-claude.d’amours@gnb.ca
francine.landry@gnb.ca
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---------- Original  message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 14:47:34 -0300
Subject: Methinks I should remind Mr Cardy and his cohorts about what
went down between the NB vaccination expert Dr. Paul Van Buynderand
and I 10 years ago N'esy Pas?
To: "Dorothy.Shephard"<Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca>, "Matt.DeCourcey"
< Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor"
< Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
< hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, PREMIER
< PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, Office of the
Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, premier
< premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "sherry.wilson"<sherry.wilson@gnb.ca>,
"carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
< blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.Vickers"<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>,
"brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
< Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"<Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>,
"Jody.Wilson-Raybould"<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>,
"Jane.Philpott"<Jane.Philpott@parl.gc.ca>, "andrew.scheer"
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< bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson"<roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>,
"denis.landry2"<denis.landry2@gnb.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
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"jagmeet.singh"<jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, "greg.byrne"
< greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "greg.thompson2"<greg.thompson2@gnb.ca>, "dan.
bussieres"<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "Tim.RICHARDSON"
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Newsroom
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https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/multimedia/mmrenderer.2009.07.2009jul30_4.jpg.html

Health,  July 29, 2009 - Miramichi
H1N1 pandemic update
Dr. Paul Van Buynder, deputy chief medical officer of health, provided
an update on the H1N1 pandemic on Thursday, July 30, in Miramichi.
From left: Dr. Denis Allard, regional medical officer of health, East
Region; Van Buynder; and Ginette Pellerin, director of Public Health
for Regional Health Authority B - Miramichi zone 7 and Moncton zone 1.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-students-new-brunswick-hearing-1.5263933


MLAs struggle with how to vote on mandatory vaccination for students bill

Law amendments committee hears from New Brunswick Pharmacists'
Association on final day of hearings

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 29, 2019 3:23 PM AT


397 comments

David Amos
Methinks i should remind Mr Cardy and his cohorts about what went down
10 years ago between New Brunswick's vaccination expert Dr. Paul Van
Buynder the deputy chief medical officer of health and I N'esy Pas?



So Dr Van Buynder are you and the politicians still attempting to call
me crazy today? Also do you have apersonal lawyer?

Sep 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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< jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, hazelbitsnaturals
< hazelbitsnaturals@hotmail.com








---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 20:25:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Re The Bank of Canada COMER and the lawyer Rocco Galati
No Thanks for not listening to me years ago Mr Priestman
To: rdpriestman@gmail.com, rocco@idirect.com, herb.wiseman@gmail.com,
comerpub@comer.org, CTAmerica@yandex.com, CTGlobalDocs@yahoo.com,
"ht.lacroix"<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
< Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "joe.oliver.a1"<joe.oliver.a1@parl.gc.ca>,
acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, RGalati@idirect.com, pm
< pm@pm.gc.ca>, "peter.mackay"<peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html


http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rocco-galati-challenges-role-of-bank-of-canada-in-latest-case-1.3065650

Rocco Galati challenges role of Bank of Canada in latest case
Maverick lawyer argues central bank should provide interest-free money
for infrastructureCBC News Posted: May 08, 2015 3:32 PM ET Last Updated: May 08, 2015 4:12 PM ET

The case against Bank of Canada 18:40

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The lawyer best known for stopping the Supreme Court appointment of
Judge Marc Nadon has turned his sights on the Bank of Canada.

Rocco Galati has taken on a case for a group called the Committee for
Monetary and Economic Reform, or COMER, which wants the central bank
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"They felt it was important in the face of the financial sector
meltdown in 2008, the banking meltdown, and the drastic reduction and
elimination of human capital infrastructure such as health care,
universities and basically the stuff that the Bank of Canada from 1938
to 1974 funded," Galati said in an interview with CBC's The Exchange
with Amanda Lange.

His clients have been dismissed as conspiracy theorists, but Galati
argues the law is there to support their case.

The Bank of Canada was set up in 1935 in the wake of the Great
Depression to provide a means for settling international accounts and
to provide interest-free loans to government to finance infrastructure
investments.
History of infrastructure funding

Projects like the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Trans-Canada highway
were funded in this way, and the central bank also underwrote Canada's
Second World War effort as well as the building of hospitals and
universities.

But in 1974, the central bank stopped providing interest-free loans to
government so it could join the Bank for International Settlements, a
kind of central bank of central banks.

Galati argues that from then on private banks became government's
lender, contravening the act that established the central bank.

He has launched legal action, beginning in 2011, to rule on the
constitutionality of the central bank's current role. His argument is
that private banks are dictating the terms of Canadian debt, usurping
the role of the Bank of Canada.
Is government bound by original act?

"My hope is that the court declare that the government is bound by the
legislation and cannot simply hand over that decision-making to
foreign private bankers," Galati said.

"What the government then does is up to the government, but they can't
simply arbitrarily say 'no never again' when the law is there and the
history of the reason for creating the Bank of Canada is there."

The Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform takes the view that
having the Bank of Canada provide funding would eliminate interest
payments on the national debt — a huge burden for the Canadian
taxpayer.

Galati agrees the case is a strange and quixotic one, but he's built a
career on holding the government to the law.

"It wasn't arcane for me, it's in the law," he said.

And he acknowledged it will probably earn him few friends. He'll never
be made a judge or even sit on a law faculty. And it will be a long
fight.

"Well, most struggles to enforce the law are. I mean, often, I've had
cases that have gone 12 years, successfully at the end of the day,
because the government simply wants to ignore the law," he said.

"That's the system we have, and when they do, the only people that can
force them to abide by the law are the courts."
Marc Nadon case

Last year when Prime Minister Stephen Harper nominated Nadon to the
Supreme Court, Galati stepped in, saying the move broke the rules. Few
expected him to win. But in a surprise decision, he did.

"I saw an attempt to pervert and subvert our independent judiciary,
which is the last bastion of balancing the rights of the citizens
against the rights of the government and making sure that the
government doesn't turn into a dictatorship," he said. "If you can
stack the court and corrupt the judiciary, well, that's it."

Galati said he believes Parliament has become ineffective in checking
the power of government and the courts are the only recourse.