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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/cn-railway-train-carrying-potash.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cn-railway-train-derails-saint-john-1.5621323
· CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2020 11:08 AM AT |
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One of the CN Rail cars that derailed Saturday night was empty but had previously contained liquid sulphur. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
A Canadian National Railway train carrying potash, woodchips and an empty car that had contained sulphur derailed over a gas pipeline in Saint John on Saturday night.
Eight cars were derailed around 6:30 p.m., causing two street closures and forcing businesses in the area to shut down early, said Steve Vautour, platoon chief with the Saint John Fire Department.
McAllister Drive to Russell Street remains closed as fire crews clean up the area.
"We're working on a plan right now to upright all the cars that have been toppled over," Vautour said.
Vautour wouldn't speculate on the cause. The derailment should be cleaned up by mid-afternoon, he said.
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One of the cars that came off its tracks when a CN train derailed Saturday. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
No leaks, fires or injuries resulted from the derailment, said a statement from CN.
"CN would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused by this incident," said company spokesperson Jonathan Abecassis in an emailed statement.
Abecassis said CN would not be doing interviews about the derailment Sunday.
Six of the derailed cars contained potash, one contained woodchips and the eighth contained residue of its previous load, liquid sulphur.
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A train derailed Saturday evening, knocking several cars off the track. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
The fire department is staying on scene to make sure the empty hazardous material car is handled safely.
"We're just there to make sure everything is conducted in the proper manner," Vautour said.
Several businesses on Rothesay Avenue were forced to close early because of last night's derailment, including the The Med Restaurant.
Owner Chris Likourgiotis was in his office doing paperwork when the derailment occurred.
"When heavy trains go by we'll feel a bit of a rumble in the building," he said.
"Around 6:30 p.m. I felt not just a rumble but it felt like an earthquake. The whole building was shaking and it lasted for about 15 seconds."
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A railway car slid off its track, toppling a poll. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
Likourgiotis jumped out of his chair and ran to the kitchen, where people were screaming about a train derailing.
When Likourgiotis ran outside, he saw the train cars toppled over, a downed power line and two lamp posts knocked over.
The car containing liquid sulphur residue from its previous load was shifted off its track and leaning less than two metres away from one of his chef's vehicles.
"If it was full, it would have been a catastrophic event."
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One of the train cars that derailed contained liquid sulphur residue from an earlier load. It derailed near a vehicle. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
Likourgiotis told his customers, some who were halfway through their meals, to leave his restaurant.
Along with the fire department, NB Power, Liberty Utilities and NB Southern Railway crews also responded to the derailment.
Trains pass by the area "many times" during the day, Likourgiotis said.
About two years ago there was a minor derailment behind the restaurant.
"It was one or two vehicles or cars that were tilted a little bit on the side, but nothing like this."
37 Comments
David Amos
Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: locally sourced? Didn't you get your wish when you protested out front in Sussex like a mo r on?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Why does it matter where it came from?
Ray Oliver
Jef Cronkhite
Somebody needs to take the Irving's toys away before someone gets seriously hurt! This is happening WAY too often!
Chuck Gendron
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: How'd the 5 member Leadership Convention of the " Me Part " go ? Did Terry challnge for the leadership ? How were the donuts at Timmies ?? Is the caucu ALL 5 members ?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Hi there Dave! Still looking for a lawyer or just some attention today?
Ray Oliver
Ken Alls
Not due to incompetence at all. Sometimes the cars get a mind of their own and jump track...
Keep moving , says CN, nothing to see here.
Peter Wylie
Corrie Weatherfield
"liquid sulphur" . . . hmmm ? according to a reference I checked, sulfur melts at about 113 C, or just above boiling point of water . . . does that mean when in use the car is kept warm enough to keep the sulphur liquid . . . or does it really mean the contents were something like sulphuric acid which would be considered quite a hazardous product would it not?
David Amos
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/cn-railway-train-carrying-potash.html
#nbpoli#cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cn-railway-train-derails-saint-john-1.5621323
CN railway train carrying potash, woodchips derails in Saint John
Derailment expected to be cleaned up by this afternoon
· CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2020 11:08 AM AT |
One of the CN Rail cars that derailed Saturday night was empty but had previously contained liquid sulphur. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
A Canadian National Railway train carrying potash, woodchips and an empty car that had contained sulphur derailed over a gas pipeline in Saint John on Saturday night.
Eight cars were derailed around 6:30 p.m., causing two street closures and forcing businesses in the area to shut down early, said Steve Vautour, platoon chief with the Saint John Fire Department.
McAllister Drive to Russell Street remains closed as fire crews clean up the area.
"We're working on a plan right now to upright all the cars that have been toppled over," Vautour said.
Vautour wouldn't speculate on the cause. The derailment should be cleaned up by mid-afternoon, he said.
One of the cars that came off its tracks when a CN train derailed Saturday. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
No leaks, fires or injuries resulted from the derailment, said a statement from CN.
"CN would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused by this incident," said company spokesperson Jonathan Abecassis in an emailed statement.
Abecassis said CN would not be doing interviews about the derailment Sunday.
Six of the derailed cars contained potash, one contained woodchips and the eighth contained residue of its previous load, liquid sulphur.
A train derailed Saturday evening, knocking several cars off the track. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
The fire department is staying on scene to make sure the empty hazardous material car is handled safely.
"We're just there to make sure everything is conducted in the proper manner," Vautour said.
Several businesses on Rothesay Avenue were forced to close early because of last night's derailment, including the The Med Restaurant.
Owner Chris Likourgiotis was in his office doing paperwork when the derailment occurred.
"When heavy trains go by we'll feel a bit of a rumble in the building," he said.
"Around 6:30 p.m. I felt not just a rumble but it felt like an earthquake. The whole building was shaking and it lasted for about 15 seconds."
A railway car slid off its track, toppling a poll. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
Likourgiotis jumped out of his chair and ran to the kitchen, where people were screaming about a train derailing.
When Likourgiotis ran outside, he saw the train cars toppled over, a downed power line and two lamp posts knocked over.
The car containing liquid sulphur residue from its previous load was shifted off its track and leaning less than two metres away from one of his chef's vehicles.
"If it was full, it would have been a catastrophic event."
One of the train cars that derailed contained liquid sulphur residue from an earlier load. It derailed near a vehicle. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)
Likourgiotis told his customers, some who were halfway through their meals, to leave his restaurant.
Along with the fire department, NB Power, Liberty Utilities and NB Southern Railway crews also responded to the derailment.
Trains pass by the area "many times" during the day, Likourgiotis said.
About two years ago there was a minor derailment behind the restaurant.
"It was one or two vehicles or cars that were tilted a little bit on the side, but nothing like this."
With files from Sarah Haliburton and Blair Sanderson
37 Comments
David Amos
Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: locally sourced? Didn't you get your wish when you protested out front in Sussex like a mo r on?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Why does it matter where it came from?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Wish I had the free time you did doing that! Davey Boy is your CERB more than your social assistance? Methinks you riding pretty high right now Lee ccch
Jef Cronkhite
Somebody needs to take the Irving's toys away before someone gets seriously hurt! This is happening WAY too often!
Chuck Gendron
If it wasn't for Irving there would be no railroad left in Saint John, then these products would go by truck.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Jef Cronkhite: It says it was a CN train not the Irving owned New Brunswick Southern Railway.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you and the irving Clan are buddies just like Higgy is N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: How'd the 5 member Leadership Convention of the " Me Part " go ? Did Terry challnge for the leadership ? How were the donuts at Timmies ?? Is the caucu ALL 5 members ?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Hi there Dave! Still looking for a lawyer or just some attention today?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Dont you know he "sues" lawyers? Be careful hes a real shark when it comes to that. When hes not lighty doing some bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger that is...
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Ray Oliver: He does seem to be fixated on them for sure. But then again when you think everyone is a lawyer that wouldn't be heard.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Sorry that is Hard not heard.. wouldn't want to get sued by someone over a typo !
Ken Alls
Not due to incompetence at all. Sometimes the cars get a mind of their own and jump track...
Keep moving , says CN, nothing to see here.
Peter Wylie
Reply to @Ken Alls:
"Mary Keith, a spokesperson for JDI, said the track was inspected Friday and no issues were reported."
"Mary Keith, a spokesperson for JDI, said the track was inspected Friday and no issues were reported."
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @Ken Alls: one photo did show a wheel broken off the suspension unit . . . .before or after the derailment ? ? ?
Peter Wylie
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield:
3rd photo from right to left between the 6th and 7th car you see a gap. Looks like it may have come apart. Just my opinion.
3rd photo from right to left between the 6th and 7th car you see a gap. Looks like it may have come apart. Just my opinion.
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Ask Brucejack Speculator what he knows about it
Corrie Weatherfield
"liquid sulphur" . . . hmmm ? according to a reference I checked, sulfur melts at about 113 C, or just above boiling point of water . . . does that mean when in use the car is kept warm enough to keep the sulphur liquid . . . or does it really mean the contents were something like sulphuric acid which would be considered quite a hazardous product would it not?
David Amos
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Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Methinks the Brucejack Speculator is a big fan of Coronation Street N'esy Pas?SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: If it were stored under pressure, that would decrease the melting point.
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: possibly but I can find no reference to pressurized containers as a transportation method. There are references to transporting sulphur as a liquid in insulated heated containers even cargo ships.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: So it appears that it's normal to transport sulfur in a liquid state and that this is what the story refers to, not to sulfuric acid.
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: not so sure of that . . . the car that is crossed on the tracks (photos 2 & 5) is identified as the car in question . . . to me it looks like a normal tank car without any special heating system . .
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: OKAY, I'll back down . . . under a search for transporting liquid sulphur by rail I found a detailed report on the subject that said something about 10 to 14 days at a certain temperature in an insulated car is what is done . . .and the pictures look a lot like the car in question . . . just that I am always suspicious of any report related to the financial family of NB