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Methinks le Brayon are laughing at this nonsense as much as I and well they should N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-course-acadian-language-1.5566072
CBC News· Posted: May 12, 2020 4:08 PM AT
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Nina Savoie-Colwell developed a new course for the University of New Brunswick's leisure learning program that explores the nuances of Acadian dialects and culture. (Radio Canada)
A new course at the University of New Brunswick aims to help students navigate the sometimes confusing waters of Acadian French dialects.
Nina Savoie-Colwell, who developed the course titled "Everyday Acadian & Culture" for the university's leisure learning program, said the course came about because some of her students commented on the peculiarities of the Acadian dialects of the French language.
"This course started off as a conversational French class because I've been teaching conversation French for many years," said Savoie-Colwell.
"I've had a lot of students say to me, 'Nina, I'm bilingual, but I still don't understand what people are saying to me and I'm having a hard time when I'm travelling around the province."
This is compounded by the fact that depending on where you are in the province, you may encounter a different dialect of "Acadian French."
Savoie-Colwell said a lot of these differences are because Acadian dialects can be isolated and are often influenced by the local culture.
"Depending on where you live, your culture was influenced by different things like, say, the fishery or working in the woods," said Savoie-Colwell.
"Your language was adapted around those trades because that's what you spoke about everyday."
Nina Savoie-Colwell developed a course on every day Acadian culture, now being offered by UNB's Leisure Learning Department online. 10:16
For example, the French spoken in Saint-Quentin may be influenced by the lumber industry, while the French spoken in Shippagan would be influenced by the fishing industry.
Savoie-Colwell said there are also words that would be considered archaic in France that are still used in New Brunswick because of the isolation of the language in the province.
She said she's already received a lot of positive feedback about the course.
"People were like, "Oh my goodness, yes, I've heard this before and I had no idea what people were saying,' or, 'I thought it meant something else,'" said Savoie-Colwell.
Savoie-Colwell said the course will also take a close look at Acadian culture, food and music.
90 Comments
David Amos
Welcome Back To The Circus
Jos Allaire
An article pour P C off they COR! Tooth they foo red, foo come le job, fa k dans la tat.
David Amos
Jos Allaire
Ole tooth oh job, ma gang the call lice!
David Amos
Michel Forgeron
From some of the comments here. It’s probably better none of you take this course, which BTW costs participants $77,63, taxpayers are not on the hook for it. My French is Montreal, but I want to better understand my Acadian neighbours, so I’ve registered for it. As for “slang” or dialects, go to northern Newfoundland or northern Ontario, see if you can understand the English. And how many people here speak “proper” (?? London) English?
David Amos
Jef Cronkhite
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: I have been fortunate enough to have seen every Province in this entire country, from cost-to-coast. I have even been to the Territories once or twice, and NEVER in my travels have I encountered an English speaking person that I could not understand. Even in Toronto, speaking with immigrants who were just learning English, I could STILL understand what they were saying, and get our respective points across. One does NOT have to speak "Proper" English to be understood. Why do you think English has become the "universal" language? Because with all it's flaws, ANY English speaking person, pretty much ANYWHERE in the world can understand what another English speaking person is saying.
French, on the other hand is more like a "secret code" where you need to live in the area to comprehend what is being said
David Amos
Robert Brannen
As well as differences among the French spoken in France, Quebec and in New Brunswick.
David Amos
Brian Robertson
If there is one thing we should have learned over the past two years, it is that it is more important to have political leadership that is capable and productive than it is to have superficial talking heads whose only skill they offer is fluency in two or more languages.
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks you should confer with your hero Higgy and the RCMP not me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Say Hey to Batman for me will ya?
Denis LeBlanc
I was fortunate to grow up with an American mother and Acadian Father. My first language was English or should I say New England dialect. Living in the Acadian Peninsula, my first friend was a boy that could speak English but in no time I had learned French and all my education was in French. My older sisters had started school in the US but also had no problem switching to French when we moved back. Perhaps the one who struggled more with language was my Mother but she learned along with my older sisters by helping them with their homework. I loved to listen to my Acadian Grandmother speak her old dialect from the Bouctouche area (no it wasn't chiac). My perspective changed completely once I got to university in Moncton. It was my first experience of bigotry. This was just after the confrontations with Mayor Jones. My biggest disappointment though was with U de M. They insisted we all learn and use their correct French. Imagine if you were told you had to learn and speak the British English or American English. Yes there are many Acadian dialects. Radio Canada used to love shaming us about that. Now 45 years later, we still have the same old language arguments in NB. How is it we can have a perfectly bilingual Premier in Alberta. The minister of health in BC is bilingual. Yet our Premier who has been in Politics for many years still struggles badly in French. In fact his entire caucus does. Some still complain about the cost of bilingualism yet we allow one family to control a large portion of our economy without paying taxes. Moncton has changed, now if only the rest of NB could accept this we could all move forward. Surely after 300 years we all deserve better.
David Stairs
Jos Allaire
Free pay tooth mon tchu, ma gang the COR!
David Amos
Rob Mason
I, and others have noticed one thing since COVID 19, no Marc Martin commenting on stories such as this one. In the past he would be on here to stoke divisions/defend language rights, depending on your perspective. If he was truly a government employee as he has stated he would certainly be on here more than usual not less. Hope he is OK health wise, but don’t miss his Bloc style defence on most issues.
Jos Allaire
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks I should begin blogging and tweeting before all your words go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Stairs
is this the best use of taxpayers money...how to understand Hillbilly French....I guess this explains why they could not pass the Nurse's Exam...and they wanted to blame it on the rest of North America...I can't believe they are not also doing Celtic and Gaelic....heck...afterall we are supposed to be all inclusive...
David Amos
Lou Bell
Nuance ? Should be " Nuisances "
Greg Windsor
Oh goodie .....I suppose they will go on about the expulsion again....yawn
Jos Allaire "POOF"
David Amos
Joseph Vacher
In lou of the cancelled F. Games, we BRING YOU THIS
SarahRose Werner
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Lee: I write N'esy Pas which just exactly how the expression sonds when said and many folks freak. Others such as you and Deschamps write "Worry pas" and nobody notices. Why is that?
Methinks the use of Chiac is a bigtime political issue in Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
DJ Redfern
Reply to @David Amos:
Proper Shiac is "worry pas ta brain"
David Amos
michael levesque
i find when i am speaking french people usually want to switch to english unless in quebec city
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks le Brayon are laughing at this nonsense as much as I and well they should N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/new-course-explores-nuances-of-acadian.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-course-acadian-language-1.5566072
New course explores nuances of Acadian language, culture
Course came about from comments on the peculiarities of Acadian dialects
CBC News· Posted: May 12, 2020 4:08 PM AT
Nina Savoie-Colwell developed a new course for the University of New Brunswick's leisure learning program that explores the nuances of Acadian dialects and culture. (Radio Canada)
A new course at the University of New Brunswick aims to help students navigate the sometimes confusing waters of Acadian French dialects.
Nina Savoie-Colwell, who developed the course titled "Everyday Acadian & Culture" for the university's leisure learning program, said the course came about because some of her students commented on the peculiarities of the Acadian dialects of the French language.
"This course started off as a conversational French class because I've been teaching conversation French for many years," said Savoie-Colwell.
"I've had a lot of students say to me, 'Nina, I'm bilingual, but I still don't understand what people are saying to me and I'm having a hard time when I'm travelling around the province."
While they share many similarities, there are differences between the French that is spoken in France, Quebec and in New Brunswick.
This is compounded by the fact that depending on where you are in the province, you may encounter a different dialect of "Acadian French."
Savoie-Colwell said a lot of these differences are because Acadian dialects can be isolated and are often influenced by the local culture.
"Depending on where you live, your culture was influenced by different things like, say, the fishery or working in the woods," said Savoie-Colwell.
"Your language was adapted around those trades because that's what you spoke about everyday."
Information Morning - Saint John
'Salut, dat's me' and other colourful Acadien dialect, culture to learn
For example, the French spoken in Saint-Quentin may be influenced by the lumber industry, while the French spoken in Shippagan would be influenced by the fishing industry.
Savoie-Colwell said there are also words that would be considered archaic in France that are still used in New Brunswick because of the isolation of the language in the province.
She said she's already received a lot of positive feedback about the course.
"People were like, "Oh my goodness, yes, I've heard this before and I had no idea what people were saying,' or, 'I thought it meant something else,'" said Savoie-Colwell.
Savoie-Colwell said the course will also take a close look at Acadian culture, food and music.
With files from Information Morning Fredericton
90 Comments
David Amos
Welcome Back To The Circus
Jos Allaire
An article pour P C off they COR! Tooth they foo red, foo come le job, fa k dans la tat.
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: C'est Vrai
Jos Allaire
Ole tooth oh job, ma gang the call lice!
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks the Brayon are laughing at this nonsense as well they should N'esy Pas?
Michel Forgeron
From some of the comments here. It’s probably better none of you take this course, which BTW costs participants $77,63, taxpayers are not on the hook for it. My French is Montreal, but I want to better understand my Acadian neighbours, so I’ve registered for it. As for “slang” or dialects, go to northern Newfoundland or northern Ontario, see if you can understand the English. And how many people here speak “proper” (?? London) English?
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Methinks I should not be surprised to see you brag of being a Quebecker who can afford such nonsense after your teased me about Higgy and his "Stay" on my Medicare Card N'esy Pas?
David Stairs
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: this is why we do not teach newfy in schools....
David Amos
Reply to @David Stairs: Its our loss
Jef Cronkhite
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: I have been fortunate enough to have seen every Province in this entire country, from cost-to-coast. I have even been to the Territories once or twice, and NEVER in my travels have I encountered an English speaking person that I could not understand. Even in Toronto, speaking with immigrants who were just learning English, I could STILL understand what they were saying, and get our respective points across. One does NOT have to speak "Proper" English to be understood. Why do you think English has become the "universal" language? Because with all it's flaws, ANY English speaking person, pretty much ANYWHERE in the world can understand what another English speaking person is saying.
French, on the other hand is more like a "secret code" where you need to live in the area to comprehend what is being said
David Amos
Reply to @Jef Cronkhite: I concur
Robert Brannen
As well as differences among the French spoken in France, Quebec and in New Brunswick.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Brannen: Methinks you forgot my Cajun friends N'esy Pas?
Robert Brannen
Reply to @Robert Brannen:
As well as differences among the French spoken in France, Quebec and in New Brunswick; there are also differences between the French spoken in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. This was demonstrated to me when a co-worker from New Brunswick moved to Nova Scotia, and this co-worker when speaking to Nova Scotia francophones, after attempting to communicate in French, found that both parties to the conversation had to switch to English in order to be understood.
As well as differences among the French spoken in France, Quebec and in New Brunswick; there are also differences between the French spoken in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. This was demonstrated to me when a co-worker from New Brunswick moved to Nova Scotia, and this co-worker when speaking to Nova Scotia francophones, after attempting to communicate in French, found that both parties to the conversation had to switch to English in order to be understood.
Robert Brannen
Reply to @David Amos:
Me thinks you jumped the gun, n'est ce pas?
Me thinks you jumped the gun, n'est ce pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Brannen: Methinks my Cajun friends would attest that I would never abuse my guns N'esy Pas?
Brian Robertson
If there is one thing we should have learned over the past two years, it is that it is more important to have political leadership that is capable and productive than it is to have superficial talking heads whose only skill they offer is fluency in two or more languages.
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Robertson: When to do you think that person will turn up and save New Brunswick from Higgy's Police State?
Brian Robertson
Reply to @David Amos:
Thanks Dave.
I appreciate a good laugh with my morning coffee.
Thanks Dave.
I appreciate a good laugh with my morning coffee.
Dan Lee
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Yea we notice when he helped with the sweet deal for Our crown land
Yea we notice when he helped with the sweet deal for Our crown land
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: why do you think NB is a police state?? And why can’t you have respect and call the premier by his proper name.
David Amos
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks you should confer with your hero Higgy and the RCMP not me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks you should confer with your hero Higgy and the RCMP not me N'esy Pas?
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: so you literally have no answer for my question. That’s exactly what I thought. “N’esy pas” so laughable
David Amos
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks you are the joker not I N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: "Rick Grayson has learned the truth: that "fixing" his identity lies with none other than Barbara Gordon. He must go to Gotham to find Batgirl—and runs into The Joker's new henchperson, Punchline.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Say Hey to Batman for me will ya?
Denis LeBlanc
I was fortunate to grow up with an American mother and Acadian Father. My first language was English or should I say New England dialect. Living in the Acadian Peninsula, my first friend was a boy that could speak English but in no time I had learned French and all my education was in French. My older sisters had started school in the US but also had no problem switching to French when we moved back. Perhaps the one who struggled more with language was my Mother but she learned along with my older sisters by helping them with their homework. I loved to listen to my Acadian Grandmother speak her old dialect from the Bouctouche area (no it wasn't chiac). My perspective changed completely once I got to university in Moncton. It was my first experience of bigotry. This was just after the confrontations with Mayor Jones. My biggest disappointment though was with U de M. They insisted we all learn and use their correct French. Imagine if you were told you had to learn and speak the British English or American English. Yes there are many Acadian dialects. Radio Canada used to love shaming us about that. Now 45 years later, we still have the same old language arguments in NB. How is it we can have a perfectly bilingual Premier in Alberta. The minister of health in BC is bilingual. Yet our Premier who has been in Politics for many years still struggles badly in French. In fact his entire caucus does. Some still complain about the cost of bilingualism yet we allow one family to control a large portion of our economy without paying taxes. Moncton has changed, now if only the rest of NB could accept this we could all move forward. Surely after 300 years we all deserve better.
David Stairs
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: I hate to tell you but we were all taught the Queen's English in school...and not some other construed variation...and no,after 300 years you are still poking the sleeping dog...
David Amos
Reply to @David Stairs: Methinks you just jerked the chains of at least one old dog snoozing on the porch with one eye trained on the SANB N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: We have many Francophone politicians here in NB who struggle miserably with English ! Knowledge will always trump bilingualism. Unfortunately McKenna and his Ude M cohorts stifled any say Anglophone NB'ers could have in the process. For him it was solely vote buying and nothing more . The Liberals have been controlled by the SANB since.
Denis LeBlanc
Reply to @David Stairs: I foolishly thought I could detect a different dialect between British English and Canadian English or even American English. I also once saw a British TV program that said there were several English dialects just in London. Could you please explain to me which one was the Queen's English? I know in my technical work expertise, I had to occasionally learn the three different technical terms in English (British, American and Canadian) and the three different terms in French (France, Québec and Acadian). More often than not the Canadian term was the same as the American. I guess the Americans don't speak the Queen's English either. Must just be in my area of expertise. As for poking a sleeping dog, I hope it wakes up and realizes his days are coming to an end. In these days of global pandemic and economic disasters, he's looking old fashioned, childish, irrelevant and may I say passé. We all have to pull together in the future just to get by and there's no room for this kind of thinking anymore. Whether you are Anglais or French (Oops, poked again.)
David Amos
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: Methinks Higgy et al know why this old mad dog just opened his other eye and winked at you N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: The dog is waking up alright ! McKenna sold out the dog solely for votes , instead saving the tail to wag it ! The dog has been poked too long and has decided it's time to take control of the tail and let the other 80 % of it's body have a say in it's control ! So wag away Mr. tail , the dog is about to take back control. The 130 million dollar undisclosed " phonie games " giveaway , as well as the 10 million dollar barge giveaway has sure woken the dog as to who's really been controlling the dog , and it is about to change
Lou Bell
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: For an American you should have realized there are many different English dialects in the U.S. alone ! Surprised you didn't know that !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your hero Hiigy must have read my letter to McKenna in 2004 then explained it to you real slow N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Mr Leblanc has already proven that he knows more than you will ever understand. Its high time for your nap N'esy Pas?
Jos Allaire
Free pay tooth mon tchu, ma gang the COR!
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Ask Higgy about it
Rob Mason
I, and others have noticed one thing since COVID 19, no Marc Martin commenting on stories such as this one. In the past he would be on here to stoke divisions/defend language rights, depending on your perspective. If he was truly a government employee as he has stated he would certainly be on here more than usual not less. Hope he is OK health wise, but don’t miss his Bloc style defence on most issues.
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Rob Mason: Band the plainte Mard!
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Mason: Methinks many would agree that he is still here but with a new ID. However even though I caused his buddy Deschamps to give up the ghost the other night It should surprises many that that SANB dude ain't in the middle of this little circus N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks I should begin blogging and tweeting before all your words go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Stairs
is this the best use of taxpayers money...how to understand Hillbilly French....I guess this explains why they could not pass the Nurse's Exam...and they wanted to blame it on the rest of North America...I can't believe they are not also doing Celtic and Gaelic....heck...afterall we are supposed to be all inclusive...
David Amos
Reply to @David Stairs: Methinks this not something to be studied in New Brunswick. It is to be lived and enjoyed. Let people not from here study us and try to fathom the various lingos. Vivre la difference. Old Hillbilly Anglos such as I have always understood and got along very well with Hillbilly French folks be they Acadian or Brayon or Cajun None of us were fond of Quebeckers or the snobs in Fat Fred City and now Moncton is getting pretty uppity N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Nuance ? Should be " Nuisances "
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks some folks enjoy my use of certain words even though you consider me a nuisance as well N'esy Pas?
Dan Lee
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: I've never seen any yet who enjoy any of your words. Can you name one ? You do average between 15 and 20 votes anytime you run in an election . Even all the people signing your nomination papers don't vote for you . I'm beginning to wonder if some have more than one identity !
David Amos
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou Bell: C UNB key done le course, Moody fall! So, valet where!
Reply to @Lou Bell
your a trou de chu..............
your a trou de chu..............
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Dan Lee: CD Coke Soccer!
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Tut Tut Tut
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: I've never seen any yet who enjoy any of your words. Can you name one ? You do average between 15 and 20 votes anytime you run in an election . Even all the people signing your nomination papers don't vote for you . I'm beginning to wonder if some have more than one identity !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your old buddy Deschamps, Mr Tibbs and mon ami Roger to name but a few would disagree with you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: "You do average between 15 and 20 votes anytime you run in an election"
Nay Not So Methinks that is libel N'esy Pas?
Nay Not So Methinks that is libel N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Are you accusing Elections Canada of Fraud?
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou Bell: C UNB key done le course, Moody fall! So, valet where!
Greg Windsor
Oh goodie .....I suppose they will go on about the expulsion again....yawn
Jos Allaire "POOF"
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Oh My
Joseph Vacher
In lou of the cancelled F. Games, we BRING YOU THIS
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Lieu, Joseph. In lieu of, au lieu de.
Dan Lee
Reply to @Joseph Vacher:
Worry pas
Worry pas
David Amos
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Mais Oui
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: my bad.... i was taught french for 10 years in the Anglophone education system and didn't learn anything
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yankee go home
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Lee: I write N'esy Pas which just exactly how the expression sonds when said and many folks freak. Others such as you and Deschamps write "Worry pas" and nobody notices. Why is that?
Methinks the use of Chiac is a bigtime political issue in Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
DJ Redfern
Reply to @David Amos:
Proper Shiac is "worry pas ta brain"
David Amos
Reply to @DJ Redfern: Methinks its not my brain that you should be worried about N'esy Pas?
michael levesque
i find when i am speaking french people usually want to switch to english unless in quebec city
David Amos
Reply to @michael levesque: Me Too
Bruce Sanders
and yet these same students will never be able to create and follow a budget, balance a checkbook, or retire.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: 'Leisure learning' courses...not sure why this is a necessity at any university...
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bob Smith: Leisure learning courses aren't a necessity - they're a way for the university to make money. They're recreational courses that people other than university students can take for fun in their spare time. The enrollment fees generate some cash for the university. They also give people a feeling that the university is something that matters to them even though they may not have gotten a degree there themselves or had kids who did. This pays off for the university when they're looking for donations but also when they they need public support against something the government wants to do.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right Methinks even the SANB are laughing at you N'esy Pas?