http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/green-party-mike-schreiner-election-guelph-win-in-reach-1.4694216
David Amos
Mike Underhill
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-polls-1.4693795
· CBC News· Posted: Jun 06, 2018 11:43 AM ET
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John Oaktree
Claire Blackstone
Pierre Elliott
Rod Figueroa
· CBC News· Posted: Jun 06, 2018 11:43 AM ET
Green Leader Mike Schreiner 'cautiously optimistic' he'll win in Guelph
'Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values,' Schreiner says
· The Canadian Press· Posted: Jun 06, 2018 1:12 PM ET5 Comments
David Amos
Methinks if one bothers to notice the tally of comments in this article versus the one today about Ford its kinda obvious Ford will be the Premier and Schreiner will not win a seat Nesy Pas?
Mike Underhill
I live in BC
Our Province is under the indirect control of 3 Greens/
Save your Province folks. DON'T vote Green
Our Province is under the indirect control of 3 Greens/
Save your Province folks. DON'T vote Green
David Amos
@Mike Underhill Methinks BC under the "indirect control" of just one lawyer who is the Green Party Leader camped in Ottawa N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-polls-1.4693795
With a day to go, Ontario election is still Doug Ford's to lose
PCs began the campaign as favourites to win and remain so today, but much has changed
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John Oaktree
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
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David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks you will cry us a river all day N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks its rather strange that my reply to you would be blocked after I got four likes N'esy Pas?
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos METHINKS YOU NEED TO STOP WITH THE MESSY PAWS!
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David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett NOPE
Does anyone notice a difference in the posts....those that are anti-Ford are coming in with facts and figures and analysis and those who support Ford are coming in with anger and no facts with the exception of Scott Brown who is at least has a working theory (corporate taxes) though I respectfully disagree.
I would say to Scott on that front that past performance is not an indicator of future performance and Americans will come to regret the big tax giveaway to the rich......it is not something we should model. They have a debt to GDP ratio of 105%....ours is 89%......theirs is going to sky rocket from trumps moves.....ours will stay consistent (even if it should be lower).
Steven Arsenault
@mo bennett
Does anyone notice a difference in the posts....those that are anti-Ford are coming in with facts and figures and analysis and those who support Ford are coming in with anger and no facts with the exception of Scott Brown who is at least has a working theory (corporate taxes) though I respectfully disagree.
I would say to Scott on that front that past performance is not an indicator of future performance and Americans will come to regret the big tax giveaway to the rich......it is not something we should model. They have a debt to GDP ratio of 105%....ours is 89%......theirs is going to sky rocket from trumps moves.....ours will stay consistent (even if it should be lower).
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks you must know what they say about people who holler at ghosts N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Steven Arsenault "Does anyone notice a difference in the posts"
Methinks lots of folks have but they cannot read what CBC has blocked N'esy Pas?
Methinks lots of folks have but they cannot read what CBC has blocked N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@John Oaktree "Why do you want to stifle freedom of speech??"
Methinks you should ask CBC that question N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should ask CBC that question N'esy Pas?
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Ivan Nano
Ivan Nano
If you are fool enough to vote for this unqualified Ford, this time next year, we are allowed to a say 'we told you so'
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@Ivan Nano there's lots of fools out there that are allowed to vote. this should be stopped immediately
David Amos
@Ivan Nano Methinks a lot f folks don't want Carbon Tax N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@mo bennett "there's lots of fools out there that are allowed to vote. this should be stopped immediately!"
Methinks that thou doth jest too much Everybody knows that your liberal friends need every vote N'esy Pas?
Methinks that thou doth jest too much Everybody knows that your liberal friends need every vote N'esy Pas?
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Damien Johnston
Damien Johnston
Ontario will regret voting in ford!
Bill Nazarene
@Damien Johnston
Jim Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they could.
Jim Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they could.
Damien Johnston
@Bill Nazarene
Relevance?
Relevance?
Bill Nazarene
@Damien Johnston
That cohort doesn't really care about anything other than an intolerant, hateful Alt-R agenda. So long as Rob/Doug panders to that, he can do no wrong in their eyes.
That cohort doesn't really care about anything other than an intolerant, hateful Alt-R agenda. So long as Rob/Doug panders to that, he can do no wrong in their eyes.
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David Amos
@Damien Johnston Methinks he is the lessor of the three stooges wanting to continue putting the screws to the taxpayer for the benefit of we all know who N'esy Pas?
Neil Turv
@Damien Johnston
The names he listed off were various people convicted of hate speech,
or other bigotry related offences.
Which to his credit is similar but different from his usual tactic of randomly selecting a point that doesn't agree with his and screaming "alt-right."
There's three types of people in Bill's eyes:
himself, those who agree with everything he says...and the alt-right
The names he listed off were various people convicted of hate speech,
or other bigotry related offences.
Which to his credit is similar but different from his usual tactic of randomly selecting a point that doesn't agree with his and screaming "alt-right."
There's three types of people in Bill's eyes:
himself, those who agree with everything he says...and the alt-right
Bill Nazarene
@Neil Turv
The words 'tolerance', 'inclusive', 'feminist', 'diversity' do get your back up, Jethro. We've all seen it.
You betray yourself...
The words 'tolerance', 'inclusive', 'feminist', 'diversity' do get your back up, Jethro. We've all seen it.
You betray yourself...
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David Amos
David Amos
@Damien Johnston Methinks some political people are gonna enjoy checking out my reply to you that CBC blocked N'esy Pas?
I'd love for Bill to call someone Alt-right and then finish with "Because you believe __________ based on this factual evidence." (And then he posts a link or quote).
Then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but considering the frequency and enthusiasm with which he applies that abhorrent term, I personally feel it's just a childish way to shut down conversation, mainly because I don't believe 40%-60% of Canadians would qualify as "Alt-R" and base don his accusations that's the range in his head.
mo bennett
@Damien Johnston ontario will regret voting for any politician!
Neil Turv
@Bill Nazarene
If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours.
If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours.
David Amos
@Neil Turv "If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours."
Methinks that many people wish that they could say the same as Mr Nazarene However only CBC and I know how many of my comments they blocked today unless Bill finally reads my blog N'esy Pas?
Methinks that many people wish that they could say the same as Mr Nazarene However only CBC and I know how many of my comments they blocked today unless Bill finally reads my blog N'esy Pas?
Neil Turv
@David Amos
@David Amos
I'd love for Bill to call someone Alt-right and then finish with "Because you believe __________ based on this factual evidence." (And then he posts a link or quote).
Then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but considering the frequency and enthusiasm with which he applies that abhorrent term, I personally feel it's just a childish way to shut down conversation, mainly because I don't believe 40%-60% of Canadians would qualify as "Alt-R" and base don his accusations that's the range in his head.
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Ivan Nano
Ivan Nano
If you are ridiculous enough to vote in this completely unqualified Ford, I reserve the right a year from now to say 'I told you so'
David Amos
@Ivan Nano Methinks you must have noticed that your other "most liked" thread and that of two others just went "POOF" N'esy Pas?
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James Watson
James Watson
After her party is wiped out maybe Wynne can ask for refugee status in Ottawa or even Toronto if Horvath makes it a sanctuary city.
David Amos
@James Watson Methinks the latest poll that CBC offers predicts that the liberals may win only one seat. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Wynne is the only one elected to sit in the house tomorrow. Now that would be a circus if she decided to quit N'esy Pas?
James Watson
@David Amos
If she WERE the only sitting Liberal it would be fitting punishment .
If she WERE the only sitting Liberal it would be fitting punishment .
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Bryan Atkinson
Bryan Atkinson
Rob was a more honest man than Doug and Rob was a disaster.
You should know by now, Ontario, you can't trust the Fords!
You should know by now, Ontario, you can't trust the Fords!
Robert Paul
@Jim Gurtle
That's a good way to put it.
I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government.
The left wingers want to take away my money and my freedoms in order to benefit the "have nots" more than they deserve. Why anyone who is a "have" would vote to give it all away to bums I cannot fathom. It's a matter of degree - yes, help out people who cannot help themselves, which is a Conservative basic official value, but going too far like the Left is doing, is terribly unfair, and it's deception to suggest that the middle class should vote Left thinking that the Left will benefit them. It will not.
We need to attract money to the province so that we can all benefit from it in terms of jobs and services. High taxes discourage this. I am not saying to have no taxes, just that the Left is taking things way too far.
That's a good way to put it.
I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government.
The left wingers want to take away my money and my freedoms in order to benefit the "have nots" more than they deserve. Why anyone who is a "have" would vote to give it all away to bums I cannot fathom. It's a matter of degree - yes, help out people who cannot help themselves, which is a Conservative basic official value, but going too far like the Left is doing, is terribly unfair, and it's deception to suggest that the middle class should vote Left thinking that the Left will benefit them. It will not.
We need to attract money to the province so that we can all benefit from it in terms of jobs and services. High taxes discourage this. I am not saying to have no taxes, just that the Left is taking things way too far.
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David Amos
@Robert Paul "I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government."
Methinks many folks agree with you N'esy Pas?
Methinks many folks agree with you N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks its rather strange to be blocked because I merely agreed with you N'esy Pas?
Steven Arsenault
@David Amos
thanks for the reminder...I am going to mute you as that N'esy Pas? drives me nuts....I get that is your objective.
thanks for the reminder...I am going to mute you as that N'esy Pas? drives me nuts....I get that is your objective.
Patrick Smyth
@Steven Arsenault
Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then.
Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then.
Patrick Smyth
@Rob Kov
There is plenty of evidence base arguments as well. You know, the ones you usually dismiss/ignore without addressing?
There is plenty of evidence base arguments as well. You know, the ones you usually dismiss/ignore without addressing?
Rob Kov
@Patrick Smyth like what? Be specific, don't just accuse people and then walk away without any substance to your argument, "You know, the ones you usually dismiss/ignore without addressing?"
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David Amos
@Rob Kov Methinks if you scroll up within this thread you will see two dudes who can't argue brag that they have had my comments blocked N'esy Pas?
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Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
I realize most people are just voting to get rid of Wynne but to elect Ford as Premier? Ford? Good Luck Ontario... Sounds like you'll need it.
Daniel McKay
If I am reading properly, Ontarians are voting for who can best fix Wynne's mess. There will be no forward movement based on political ideology or market preference. It's all about cleanup.
@Tom Simpson I dunno, I see a lot of people berating the federal leader/party that got in on the "get-rid-of-the-current-administration-at-any-cost" vote. I think some thought about who is being rallied behind, provincially, will serve the people of Ontario better. Better than "just anyone other than Wynne", at least.
If I am reading properly, Ontarians are voting for who can best fix Wynne's mess. There will be no forward movement based on political ideology or market preference. It's all about cleanup.
David Amos
@Daniel McKay "If I am reading properly, Ontarians are voting for who can best fix Wynne's mess."
I agree
I agree
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos NONE OF 'EM CAN FIX WYNNE'S MESS, JUST THE SAME AS YOU COULDN'T!
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David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett Who are you to judge me in capital letters? Methinks you have done nothing at all except make fun of people within CBC's comment sections N'esy Pas?
Ed Toogood
I want services, not tax cuts.
David Amos
@Ed Toogood "I want services, not tax cuts."
Methinks you jest or you drink way too much of the NDP's kool aid N'esy Pas?
Methinks you jest or you drink way too much of the NDP's kool aid N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Patrick Smyth "Yup, those public sector employees aren't PEOPLE or anything, they are just things to be used as pawns by politicians seeking power or convenient scapegoats among the right for all of societies economic problems"
Methinks thou doth protest too much N'esy Pas ye who claims to mute me?
Methinks thou doth protest too much N'esy Pas ye who claims to mute me?
Richard Sharp
Me too. But we could do with way fewer police, fire fighters and prison staff. America's crazy wars on drugs, crime, illegal immigration, terror et al thoroughly infected us and it's time we healed ourselves.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks nobody would be surprised by your reply The real question is how long will it exist N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks it should be no surprise that my reply to you was blocked N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Ed Toogood
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Hours ago I told you to cry me a river and so you have. However instead of posting the same comments a bunch of times, why not read something for a change? Methinks if you have no idea who I am just Google the names Bill Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea Horwath and mine. You may become enlightened just before polling day N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Lester Rowe "Sounds like a carefully thought out untruth."
Methinks if you truly wish to hear such wicked things all you have to do is just ask me for the cell phone number of Trump's lawyer N'esy Pas?
Methinks if you truly wish to hear such wicked things all you have to do is just ask me for the cell phone number of Trump's lawyer N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
Ford has nothing constructive to offer Ontario: all he is capable of is boilerplate reactionary rhetoric, and claims to represent "little guys" while supporting policies that amplify inequality. If it's his election to lose, the only mitigating factor in his favour, is advisors telling him to stick to vague and minimal details on any political matter.
Nice sock puppet. And corporate vultures can fill their boots.
Nice sock puppet. And corporate vultures can fill their boots.
David Amos
@Jim Gurtle "Companies were leaving Ontario under Wynne and would pack their bags even faster if Horwath is premier"
YUP
YUP
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren "Ford has nothing constructive to offer Ontario"
Methinks his promise to turf Carbon Tax is a very big deal N'esy Pas?
Methinks his promise to turf Carbon Tax is a very big deal N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
@David Amos
Youthinks abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's population is a "very big deal" when it's more like holding a garage sale for bunker fuel distributors. Keep staring into the smog if you must.
Youthinks abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's population is a "very big deal" when it's more like holding a garage sale for bunker fuel distributors. Keep staring into the smog if you must.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren Methinks you do know who I am N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren "Youthinks abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's population is a "very big deal"
Methinks you are twisting my words for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are twisting my words for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
@David Amos
I'll take your "N'esy Pas" as some cryptic affectation of the term "unnecessary". Ford's irrational plan to eliminate the carbon tax is politically twisted for many reasons, and "unnecessarily" places Ontario at a disadvantage when the rest of the planet is pricing carbon accordingly. There would be consequences, pay now or pay later.
I'll take your "N'esy Pas" as some cryptic affectation of the term "unnecessary". Ford's irrational plan to eliminate the carbon tax is politically twisted for many reasons, and "unnecessarily" places Ontario at a disadvantage when the rest of the planet is pricing carbon accordingly. There would be consequences, pay now or pay later.
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren Methinks that you have no idea who I am However everybody "in the know" knows that if you were to Google the names Bill Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea Horwath and mine you may become enlightened just before polling day N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Andrew McLaren
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks earlier when you had the most liked thread CBC blocked my replies to you for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Ivor Sargent
Ford would vote for Trump and vice versa.
Jim Graham
@Ivor Sargent
Yes, Trump, Doug Ford, Joe Arpaio and Roy Moore ... the ideal Trump foursome for a short 9 holes.
Yes, Trump, Doug Ford, Joe Arpaio and Roy Moore ... the ideal Trump foursome for a short 9 holes.
David Amos
@Jim Graham Methinks a couple of my political foes such as the lawyer Rob Moore and his new boss I call Harper 2.0 would vote for Ford and Trump if they could N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Amos
@Bill Nazarene "and Jim Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they could."
Methinks you are being rather redundant N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are being rather redundant N'esy Pas?
Andrew Hurrie
I am still in shock that Ontario would even consider Doug Ford as a viable candidate.
Seriously people...it is DOUG FORD!
What are you thinking??
Wake up Ontario!!!
Seriously people...it is DOUG FORD!
What are you thinking??
Wake up Ontario!!!
David Amos
@Robert Langdon "Unfortunately, what are the options? They're not much better."
Methinks most folks think they are worse N'esy Pas?
Methinks most folks think they are worse N'esy Pas?
Arlond Lynds
@Andrew Hurrie
The conservative party no longer exists in Canada, and the republican Party no longer deserves to exist south of the border.
The conservative party no longer exists in Canada, and the republican Party no longer deserves to exist south of the border.
David Amos
@Arlond Lynds Methinks the "Progressive" Conservative Party was chucked under the bus by Petey Baby MacKay and his cohorts in 2003 but the far right "Conservative Party is here to stay for quite awhile even though MacKay and the last of his old PC his pals quit before the last election N'esy Pas?
Mike McNair
Get out the Vote.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Mike McNair Methinks that is exactly what the folks should do and vote for anyone they wish N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@David Amos
I think you mean n'est-ce pas
N'esy pas is gibberish...
I think you mean n'est-ce pas
N'esy pas is gibberish...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks we all know why I get 5 dislikes while your rather redundant insult gets 5 likes Yet when I reply to you I am usually blocked N'esy Pas?
Patrick Smyth
@John Oaktree
"gibberish..."
David's speciality.
"gibberish..."
David's speciality.
Roy T. Gilroy
@John Oaktree Oh he means messy paw
David Amos
@Patrick Smyth In another thread above you posted "Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then."
Methinks it ain't rocket science to figure out your specialty N'esy Pas?
Methinks it ain't rocket science to figure out your specialty N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Roy T. Gilroy Methinks its rather obvious that you and Mr Bennett are the best of buddies N'esy Pas?
Mike McNair
Ford will have his work cut out for him to start bringing businesses and investments back to Ontario.
David Amos
@Mike McNair Methinks if he cuts taxes they will come N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@David Amos
What's the gibberish at the end of your comment?? Does it mean something??
Perhaps you meant n'est-ce pas??
What's the gibberish at the end of your comment?? Does it mean something??
Perhaps you meant n'est-ce pas??
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks I have explained it at least three times in the past month. If you left wingers can't recall perhaps you should confer with your friend "mo bennett"? Trust that he knows the score as he twists it to "messy paws" N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Mike McNair
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
David Amos
@John Oaktree YUP
Claire Blackstone
CBC headline the day before the election implies a possible loss for PCs - just to make sure we know the preference of the "national broadcaster."
David Amos
@Claire Blackstone "CBC headline the day before the election implies a possible loss for PCs"
Methinks its time to sit back and watch the circus and laugh as we wait for the Fat Lady sing a wickedly righteous tune tomorrow night. However I must admit that for once I agree with Wynne in that the best outcome would be a minority mandate but its looks like a big win for Ford N'esy Pas?
Methinks its time to sit back and watch the circus and laugh as we wait for the Fat Lady sing a wickedly righteous tune tomorrow night. However I must admit that for once I agree with Wynne in that the best outcome would be a minority mandate but its looks like a big win for Ford N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Claire Blackstone
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks you are being far to redundant in order to bury the words of other folks N'esy Pas?
bill chagwich
Ford has his work cut out, with the debt that Wynne has left, by the way Horwath wants to continue
David Amos
@bill chagwich "Ford has his work cut out, with the debt that Wynne has left"
Methinks that is an understatement He is gonna have a lot of nightmares to deal with if he wins N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is an understatement He is gonna have a lot of nightmares to deal with if he wins N'esy Pas?
Pierre Elliott
The CBC should have to go offline 72 hours before an election. The bias is thick.
David Amos
@Pierre Elliott Methinks that may be the understatement of the evening N'esy Pas?
Rod Figueroa
Go Ford!
mo bennett
@Rod Figueroa STOP FORD WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA!
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks that you are the dude being stopped a lot tonight N'esy Pas?
Maintained by CBC poll analyst Éric Grenier, the Poll Tracker aggregates all publicly available polling data to follow the trends of the June 7th election.
Latest polls and projections
Updated on June 06, 2018Poll averages
PC
+0.5
NDP
-0.1
LIB
-0.3
GRN
-0.3
OTH
+0.1
Seat projections
minoritymajority
PC74
5388
NDP49
3663
LIB1
11
GRN0
1
OTH0
Probability of winning
88.3%
Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority
3.4%
Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority
2.4%
Probability of the NDP winning the most seats but not a majority
5.4%
Probability of the NDP winning a majority
Doug Ford's PCs have inched ahead of Andrea Horwath's New Democrats in the polls, but despite the close race in the popular vote the PCs have a better regional distribution of that vote and so are heavily favoured to win more seats. The NDP's forward momentum appears to have stalled. It is no coincidence that the Liberal slide has also slowed, leaving the party with just enough support to be competitive in a handful of ridings.
With a day to go, Ontario election is still Doug Ford's to lose
PCs began the campaign as favourites to win and remain so today, but much has changed
On the first day of the Ontario election campaign, the race was Doug Ford's to lose. On the last day of the campaign, it remains the PC leader's race to lose — and he might just avoid doing that.
With less than 24 hours to go before the polls open and voters begin casting their ballots, the opinion polls show that the Progressive Conservatives are holding on to their slim lead over Andrea Horwath's New Democrats. And because of how the vote is projected to break down across the province, that likely is enough to give the PCs a majority government.
But it isn't a sure bet. A number of factors could conspire to prevent the PCs from attaining the 63 seats needed to form a majority government. The odds of that happening are low, but this has been a campaign full of surprises.
As of the morning of June 6, the CBC Poll Tracker— an aggregation of all publicly available polling data — suggests the PCs have about 38 per cent support. That's just enough to keep them ahead of the New Democrats, who stand at 36.5 per cent.
(The Poll Tracker will be updated with the final polls of the campaign as they are published — see here for the latest numbers.)
It's a far closer race than when the campaign began. The margin between the PCs and the New Democrats has shrunk by 13 points, as the PCs have dropped three points in the Poll Tracker over the course of the campaign while the NDP has soared by 10.
The New Democrats were able to take some support away from the PCs, but the bulk of their gains came from the Liberals. At 19.1 per cent, Kathleen Wynne's party has plummeted seven points to what would be the worst performance in the party's history if the numbers are replicated when the votes are tabulated Thursday night.
The Greens have held steady at five per cent, but leader Mike Schreiner could make history himself by pulling off an upset in the riding of Guelph.
But this portrait has been in freeze-frame for two weeks now; since the May 24 update of the Poll Tracker, the PCs and NDP have been within two points of one another without exception.
The polls have been very consistent on this score, with no disagreements that cannot be explained away by normal sampling errors. It looks like a close race. Still, it might not turn out that way when the votes are turned into seats.
The Poll Tracker seat projection currently estimates that the most likely outcome for the PCs is 73 seats, well over the threshold for a majority government. Taking into account past polling errors and the imprecision of the seat projection model, the PCs could win between 54 and 86 seats — a range that is comfortable for the PCs and their majority prospects, but not a certainty.
The New Democrats are projected to win between 38 and 63 seats, with 50 seats being the best guess. That gives them some overlap with the PCs, but requires that current polls overestimate PC support significantly, with virtually all of that error going in the NDP's direction rather than toward the Liberals.
Wynne has admitted already she won't be winning the election. But she does need to ensure her party reaches the bar of eight seats to retain official party status. The seat projection model thinks the Liberals could win as many as 11 seats — and as few as zero.
With the current likeliest outcome for the Liberals being one seat, that suggests the odds are better than not that the party will fall short of eight seats.
But all politics being local — and Wynne's admission included a plea for voters to elect Liberal MPPs in some ridings — there is the potential for the Liberals to out-perform expectations in a few seats.
That the PCs are able to win many more seats than the NDP with only slightly more votes is due to the relative inefficiency of the NDP's support and the manner in which the first-past-the-post electoral system can reward a party that has even a modest lead in the popular vote.
The PCs are ahead in eastern Ontario and in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region, two regions that could get the PCs most of the way to a majority government on their own. The party could win more than two-thirds of the seats in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region with just 40 per cent of the vote, despite being barely ahead of the NDP. It could win three-quarters of the seats in eastern Ontario with the same 40 per cent vote share.
The New Democrats lead in Toronto and are narrowly ahead in southwestern Ontario, but are poised to win about as many seats as the PCs in these two parts of the province.
Only in northern Ontario might the NDP's vote be efficient — delivering as much as 85 per cent of the region's seats with just 45 per cent of the vote. It doesn't help much, however, as there are only 13 seats in northern Ontario.
For this reason, the Poll Tracker estimates that the PCs have an 87 per cent chance of winning a majority government with these levels of support, with the NDP's chances being just six per cent. The odds of a minority government — about seven per cent — are low due to the Liberals not winning enough seats to make a minority government mathematically likely.
But changing turnout patterns could turn the projections on their head, making the NDP vote more efficient and the seat gap narrower than expected. The NDP's historic rise in the polls makes this possible if voters come out in unpredictable places. But how likely is that?
Polls suggest that the PCs are more likely to benefit from the turnout than the New Democrats. A poll by Léger has found that the PCs hold a six-point edge among voters 55 and older, a cohort that traditionally votes in large numbers. The same poll found the NDP ahead by four points among voters between the ages of 18 and 34, a group that has low turnout rates.
Both Pollara and Abacus Data found the PCs leading among votes already cast, with the PCs ahead by seven and four points, respectively, among Ontarians who voted in the advance polls. Those are ballots already in the system and counted, rather than hypothetical future votes that have yet to be cast.
But in the last provincial election in 2014, pollsters experimented with turnout models in an effort to avoid a repeat of the polling miss in British Columbia the previous year. And in every single case, the likely voter models did worse than a standard weighting to the general population.
Turnout was supposed to benefit the Ontario PCs in 2014 and give Tim Hudak a chance of winning. Instead, the PCs under-performed their polls and the Liberals won a majority government.
The roller coaster final days of the campaign have also injected a degree of uncertainty. Wynne's admission of defeat and plea for the election of enough Liberal MPPs to keep the PCs or the NDP to a minority government hasn't had an impact on the polls, but it could have an influence on local races.
Recently, Renata Ford — widow of Doug Ford's late brother Rob — went public with a lawsuit claiming a lack of support for her bereaved family and bad management of the family firm under Doug Ford. The allegations — which have not been proven in court, and which Ford denies — could undermine the PC leader's already waning popularity.
Forum and Pollara have recently found Ford's unfavourables approaching those of Wynne. Forum put the number of Ontarians disapproving of Ford at 55 per cent, just 10 points below Wynne's score, while Pollara also found 55 per cent of respondents reporting negative views of Ford — just three points below Wynne.
In both polls, more Ontarians had a positive view of the NDP's leader than a negative one.
There is also a significant portion of the electorate that remains undecided, ranging as low as six to seven per cent (Léger and Mainstreet, respectively) and as high as 12 to 14 per cent (Pollara and Abacus). If those undecideds swing disproportionately to the NDP or the PCs, it could have a big impact on a close race.
Nevertheless, Doug Ford and the PCs retain significant advantages and are the favourites to secure a majority government going into election day, a position they have never given up from Day 1.
But keeping an eye on the final polls of the campaign is still a good idea — electoral law in Ontario allows for the reporting of new opinion surveys up until Wednesday night. Over the past four weeks, the Ontario election campaign has been full of surprises and has changed quickly. There's no reason it should be any different in the last 36 hours.
With less than 24 hours to go before the polls open and voters begin casting their ballots, the opinion polls show that the Progressive Conservatives are holding on to their slim lead over Andrea Horwath's New Democrats. And because of how the vote is projected to break down across the province, that likely is enough to give the PCs a majority government.
As of the morning of June 6, the CBC Poll Tracker— an aggregation of all publicly available polling data — suggests the PCs have about 38 per cent support. That's just enough to keep them ahead of the New Democrats, who stand at 36.5 per cent.
(The Poll Tracker will be updated with the final polls of the campaign as they are published — see here for the latest numbers.)
It's a far closer race than when the campaign began. The margin between the PCs and the New Democrats has shrunk by 13 points, as the PCs have dropped three points in the Poll Tracker over the course of the campaign while the NDP has soared by 10.
The Greens have held steady at five per cent, but leader Mike Schreiner could make history himself by pulling off an upset in the riding of Guelph.
But this portrait has been in freeze-frame for two weeks now; since the May 24 update of the Poll Tracker, the PCs and NDP have been within two points of one another without exception.
The polls have been very consistent on this score, with no disagreements that cannot be explained away by normal sampling errors. It looks like a close race. Still, it might not turn out that way when the votes are turned into seats.
PCs favoured in number that counts
The Poll Tracker seat projection currently estimates that the most likely outcome for the PCs is 73 seats, well over the threshold for a majority government. Taking into account past polling errors and the imprecision of the seat projection model, the PCs could win between 54 and 86 seats — a range that is comfortable for the PCs and their majority prospects, but not a certainty.
Wynne has admitted already she won't be winning the election. But she does need to ensure her party reaches the bar of eight seats to retain official party status. The seat projection model thinks the Liberals could win as many as 11 seats — and as few as zero.
With the current likeliest outcome for the Liberals being one seat, that suggests the odds are better than not that the party will fall short of eight seats.
But all politics being local — and Wynne's admission included a plea for voters to elect Liberal MPPs in some ridings — there is the potential for the Liberals to out-perform expectations in a few seats.
NDP vote looks inefficient, but is it?
That the PCs are able to win many more seats than the NDP with only slightly more votes is due to the relative inefficiency of the NDP's support and the manner in which the first-past-the-post electoral system can reward a party that has even a modest lead in the popular vote.
The PCs are ahead in eastern Ontario and in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region, two regions that could get the PCs most of the way to a majority government on their own. The party could win more than two-thirds of the seats in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region with just 40 per cent of the vote, despite being barely ahead of the NDP. It could win three-quarters of the seats in eastern Ontario with the same 40 per cent vote share.
The New Democrats lead in Toronto and are narrowly ahead in southwestern Ontario, but are poised to win about as many seats as the PCs in these two parts of the province.
For this reason, the Poll Tracker estimates that the PCs have an 87 per cent chance of winning a majority government with these levels of support, with the NDP's chances being just six per cent. The odds of a minority government — about seven per cent — are low due to the Liberals not winning enough seats to make a minority government mathematically likely.
But changing turnout patterns could turn the projections on their head, making the NDP vote more efficient and the seat gap narrower than expected. The NDP's historic rise in the polls makes this possible if voters come out in unpredictable places. But how likely is that?
Turnout could favour PCs, but …
Polls suggest that the PCs are more likely to benefit from the turnout than the New Democrats. A poll by Léger has found that the PCs hold a six-point edge among voters 55 and older, a cohort that traditionally votes in large numbers. The same poll found the NDP ahead by four points among voters between the ages of 18 and 34, a group that has low turnout rates.
Both Pollara and Abacus Data found the PCs leading among votes already cast, with the PCs ahead by seven and four points, respectively, among Ontarians who voted in the advance polls. Those are ballots already in the system and counted, rather than hypothetical future votes that have yet to be cast.
But in the last provincial election in 2014, pollsters experimented with turnout models in an effort to avoid a repeat of the polling miss in British Columbia the previous year. And in every single case, the likely voter models did worse than a standard weighting to the general population.
Turnout was supposed to benefit the Ontario PCs in 2014 and give Tim Hudak a chance of winning. Instead, the PCs under-performed their polls and the Liberals won a majority government.
Events and undecideds
The roller coaster final days of the campaign have also injected a degree of uncertainty. Wynne's admission of defeat and plea for the election of enough Liberal MPPs to keep the PCs or the NDP to a minority government hasn't had an impact on the polls, but it could have an influence on local races.
Recently, Renata Ford — widow of Doug Ford's late brother Rob — went public with a lawsuit claiming a lack of support for her bereaved family and bad management of the family firm under Doug Ford. The allegations — which have not been proven in court, and which Ford denies — could undermine the PC leader's already waning popularity.
Forum and Pollara have recently found Ford's unfavourables approaching those of Wynne. Forum put the number of Ontarians disapproving of Ford at 55 per cent, just 10 points below Wynne's score, while Pollara also found 55 per cent of respondents reporting negative views of Ford — just three points below Wynne.
Significant portion undecided
In both polls, more Ontarians had a positive view of the NDP's leader than a negative one.
There is also a significant portion of the electorate that remains undecided, ranging as low as six to seven per cent (Léger and Mainstreet, respectively) and as high as 12 to 14 per cent (Pollara and Abacus). If those undecideds swing disproportionately to the NDP or the PCs, it could have a big impact on a close race.
Nevertheless, Doug Ford and the PCs retain significant advantages and are the favourites to secure a majority government going into election day, a position they have never given up from Day 1.
But keeping an eye on the final polls of the campaign is still a good idea — electoral law in Ontario allows for the reporting of new opinion surveys up until Wednesday night. Over the past four weeks, the Ontario election campaign has been full of surprises and has changed quickly. There's no reason it should be any different in the last 36 hours.
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Green Leader Mike Schreiner 'cautiously optimistic' he'll win in Guelph
'Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values,' Schreiner says
· The Canadian Press· Posted: Jun 06, 2018 1:12 PM ETMike Schreiner cannot walk the streets of downtown Guelph, Ont., without being stopped to talk politics.
"Good job Mike," one man says as he slaps the Green party leader on the back.
"We're working hard, eh!" the 48-year-old U.S.-born politician responds with a laugh. "Make sure you vote, no matter who it is."
"I'm voting for you," the man says.
Schreiner talks and walks fast. He's got his messaging down, his enthusiasm up.
"The Liberal vote is collapsing in Guelph," Schreiner says.
"I'm also finding a lot of Conservatives coming our way as well and it's mostly driven by Doug Ford. I've had so many Conservatives in Guelph come up and say 'I won't vote for a Doug Ford-led Conservative party."'
In the 2014 election, Schreiner, who has led the provincial Greens since 2009, finished third with 19.29 per cent of the vote, just 1.5 percentage points behind the Progressive Conservative candidate, who is also not running this time, and ahead of the NDP.
"I'm cautiously optimistic we're going to elect our first Green MPP," Schreiner says as he canvasses his riding, where he lives in a modest semi-detached house with his wife and two teenage daughters.
A few years ago, Schreiner moved from Toronto to Guelph, where he has been working for decades. The city is ripe for a Green representative, he says. It's replete with clean-tech startups and a city council focused on renewable energy and protecting its water.
"Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values," he says.
His supporters are people of all ages and political stripes. At 70 years old, Elaine Duignan says she's volunteering for the first time with a political party. She's been an NDP supporter, but has fallen in love with Schreiner and his policies.
"I love his honesty, his integrity, his community involvement," says Duignan as she strolls around Guelph clad head-to-toe in green.
"You know it's hard to meet an honest politician."
"I haven't ever voted Green and that's mostly because I didn't ever really think they had a chance," Rogers says.
"Now that they do have a shot, it would be really nice to have Green win Guelph — but I'm not 100 per cent decided."
Schreiner is a known commodity in Guelph, through owning various small food businesses — his first was an organic food distribution operation.
Locally, people know the Greens are about more than just saving the planet, he says, but across the province there is still the preconceived notion that the party only cares about the environment.
"The perception of the party once was that we hug trees, wear Birkenstocks and smoke cannabis," he says. "I really changed the brand of the party as a small business owner and an environmentalist at the same time."
Some of his policies are obvious. He wants Ontario to move to 100 per cent renewable energy and wants to close the nuclear energy plant in Pickering. But others reflect realities in urban areas like Guelph. He'd roll mental health coverage into the Ontario Health Insurance Plan and he'd implement a basic income program.
Once a month, Schreiner and his team help serve breakfast at Lakeside HOPE House, a community centre that helps low-income and homeless people.
The centre hosted an all-candidates meeting last week, in which there was one rule — no mud slinging. Schreiner and the other candidates representing the NDP, the Liberal party, the Communist party and the None of the Above party took time to praise each other.
It fits with Schreiner's style, who has vowed publicly to avoid running a negative campaign.
"People are saying they're just sick and tired of the three parties, all the political spin, all the vague answers, all the attack ads, so here in Guelph, I think that's partially why I'm getting so much support," he says.
"Who knows, maybe we can break through in Guelph and one or two other ridings," he adds, "because I would sure like some company at Queen's Park."
"Good job Mike," one man says as he slaps the Green party leader on the back.
"We're working hard, eh!" the 48-year-old U.S.-born politician responds with a laugh. "Make sure you vote, no matter who it is."
"I'm voting for you," the man says.
Schreiner talks and walks fast. He's got his messaging down, his enthusiasm up.
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"The Liberal vote is collapsing in Guelph," Schreiner says.
"I'm also finding a lot of Conservatives coming our way as well and it's mostly driven by Doug Ford. I've had so many Conservatives in Guelph come up and say 'I won't vote for a Doug Ford-led Conservative party."'
'Cautiously optimistic'
In the 2014 election, Schreiner, who has led the provincial Greens since 2009, finished third with 19.29 per cent of the vote, just 1.5 percentage points behind the Progressive Conservative candidate, who is also not running this time, and ahead of the NDP.
"I'm cautiously optimistic we're going to elect our first Green MPP," Schreiner says as he canvasses his riding, where he lives in a modest semi-detached house with his wife and two teenage daughters.
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A few years ago, Schreiner moved from Toronto to Guelph, where he has been working for decades. The city is ripe for a Green representative, he says. It's replete with clean-tech startups and a city council focused on renewable energy and protecting its water.
"Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values," he says.
Greens 'have a shot'
His supporters are people of all ages and political stripes. At 70 years old, Elaine Duignan says she's volunteering for the first time with a political party. She's been an NDP supporter, but has fallen in love with Schreiner and his policies.
"I love his honesty, his integrity, his community involvement," says Duignan as she strolls around Guelph clad head-to-toe in green.
"You know it's hard to meet an honest politician."
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"I haven't ever voted Green and that's mostly because I didn't ever really think they had a chance," Rogers says.
"Now that they do have a shot, it would be really nice to have Green win Guelph — but I'm not 100 per cent decided."
Changed party brand
Schreiner is a known commodity in Guelph, through owning various small food businesses — his first was an organic food distribution operation.
Locally, people know the Greens are about more than just saving the planet, he says, but across the province there is still the preconceived notion that the party only cares about the environment.
"The perception of the party once was that we hug trees, wear Birkenstocks and smoke cannabis," he says. "I really changed the brand of the party as a small business owner and an environmentalist at the same time."
Some of his policies are obvious. He wants Ontario to move to 100 per cent renewable energy and wants to close the nuclear energy plant in Pickering. But others reflect realities in urban areas like Guelph. He'd roll mental health coverage into the Ontario Health Insurance Plan and he'd implement a basic income program.
The centre hosted an all-candidates meeting last week, in which there was one rule — no mud slinging. Schreiner and the other candidates representing the NDP, the Liberal party, the Communist party and the None of the Above party took time to praise each other.
"People are saying they're just sick and tired of the three parties, all the political spin, all the vague answers, all the attack ads, so here in Guelph, I think that's partially why I'm getting so much support," he says.
"Who knows, maybe we can break through in Guelph and one or two other ridings," he adds, "because I would sure like some company at Queen's Park."